Thoughts regarding Shoot Through Hull Transducers?

golf101

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I'm moving my chartplotter/fishfinder to a new bowrider I just bought, and the dealer recommended a shoot through hull transducer. I've never used one. How effective are these? I don't do a lot of fishing with the boat, so the depth finder is probably more what I use it for.
 

dingbat

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Re: Thoughts regarding Shoot Through Hull Transducers?

Unless you have a high end unit and a hign end transducer you can't tell the difference between the two. That is, if the shoot thru installation was done correctly.
 

achris

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Re: Thoughts regarding Shoot Through Hull Transducers?

Only works in a 'glass boat, no good for coke cans....

I have one in my boat... Love it. Transom mounted was good to about 13 knots, then just noise. Now I still have a very good picture at full throttle (43 knots on a good day :D).

You need them just in front of the engine and as close to the keel as possible, otherwise you get too much air under the transducer if it's too far forward.... Also the transducer needs to be mounted in the lid of the box so it is dead vertical....

And the best liquid to fill the box? That green radiator coolant... Nothing will grow in it and it has the same refractive index as sea-water (close as)....

Chris.......
 

dingbat

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Re: Thoughts regarding Shoot Through Hull Transducers?

And the best liquid to fill the box? That green radiator coolant... Nothing will grow in it and it has the same refractive index as sea-water (close as)....

Chris.......

Filling your transducer box with a deadly toxin (ethylene glycol) is not a good idea. Airmar recommends either caster oil or propylene glycol (the pink stuff).

FWIW: The frequency shift induced by the signal passing thru the hull makes the refractive index of the solution a none issue.
 

bruceb58

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Re: Thoughts regarding Shoot Through Hull Transducers?

To see how it will work shooting through your particular hull, fill the bilge partially with water and dip the transducer in it. After you do that, put it over the side of your boat and compare the results. If it still looks satisfactory, your hull is a good candidate to shoot thru.
 

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Re: Thoughts regarding Shoot Through Hull Transducers?

I have a Raymarine A65 with a transom mounted transducer.
I also have a Humminbird 610, it looks like a small gauge. I put the Humminbird in for redundancy. It has a shoot thru transducer, I installed it per directions and 90% of the time it is matched up with my transom mount.
 

Texasmark

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Re: Thoughts regarding Shoot Through Hull Transducers?

Bruce has the way you determine if it will work, and while you are at doing what he said, build your dam where you want to mount it. Plain water is all you need for the test and if you have a lot of dead rise at the transom, and that is where you want to locate it, just fill your bilge with enough water to cover at least the lower half of the transducer and you will get your answer.

If you like the response you get as compared to his over the side suggestion comparison, hard epoxy (not soft silicon....you want the mechanical vibration to move through the glue and silicon is soft and attenuates it) the transducer as vertical as you can get it in that location....obviously after you clean up the grease and water and other bilge crud from the transducer and the location. A little sanding of the area wouldn't hurt to help the epoxy adhere.

On Achris's "no tin cans" (aluminum hulls).......Depth finders are acoustic (sound....percussion) devices, not electronic devices. The transducer is a piezo device that converts 50KHz or 200kHz electronic sine wave pulses into mechanical vibrations. These vibrations go through "tin cans" like they weren't even there. Water does an excellent job of amplifying sound which makes it easy for sound to travel through it. My current boat is my second tin can with the transducer mounted internally.

If you have any doubts and are not technically inclined about sound being amplified through a dense medium such as water, have someone go by you with their boat at say 100 or so feet away from you at 20 mph (for a number) and with your head out of the water try to hear the prop spinning. Then duck under the water and listen again. While you are down there listening, think about what the fish hears when you think you are sneaking up on him with your engine/prop running, and his acoustic sensors are probably 100 x more sensitive than yours or mine.

Mark
 
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