Throttle position

torcano

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I noticed that my throttles were positioned in the idle neutral position after the sterndrives were removed for winter storage. After cleaning out the boat for winter, I instinctively moved them to neutral. I remember reading something on this forum about the need to have the throttle engaged when pulling the outdrives. I put the throttles back to the idle neutral position after recalling that post. Did I screw up?
Also, thanks for all your help this past year being my first year of boat ownership. Merry Xmas to all and especially Chieflan who has very generous with his offers to help out.
Bob (torcano)
 

HT32BSX115

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Re: Throttle position

Bob,



I'm not sure exactly what you're asking but if you removed the drives with both controls in "Forward" then you're "ok".

Just make sure they're in "Forward" when you replace the drives.

If you removed them with the shifter not in "F" then you will need to check for a possibly bent (Upper or more likely Lower) Shift Shaft.

Pictures below from Doug Russell Parts:

#25 (upper shift shaft)

# 32 (lower shift shaft)



Merry Christmas!


Rick
 

chiefalen

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Re: Throttle position

Can you describe what you mean by idle ? Where exactly was the throttle controls ?

And you are welcome, hope you had a nice holiday, universal studios was a blast, but alot of walking. Feet hurt bad.
 

torcano

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Re: Throttle position

The throttles were in the forward position but not alll the forward as in WOT. The marina mechanics removed the sterndrives, not me. They do this for hundreds of boats so I am sure they know what they are doing. When I climbed on the boat after the sterndrives were already removed and the boat was up on blocks. I noticed that the throttles were not in the neutral postion so for some reason I slid them back to the neutral position. A few weeks later, I remembered something about this on this forum and I climbed back on board ( I have an access door in the shrink wrap) and put the throttle back into forward. Of course, the sterndrives were off at this time as well. Any harm done?
 

JustJason

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Re: Throttle position

Nope.... no harm done at all.
The shift lever needs to be put back into foward gear though when it comes time to put the drives back on.
 

HT32BSX115

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Re: Throttle position

Since you had the "Marina Mechanics" do the the job it wouldn't matter since any decent mechanic would check the shift position prior to installing the drives.

It doesn't matter whether it's forward-IDLE or forward-WOT, as long it's in forward.

They'll put each drive in forward and then use a "bungee cord" or equivalent on the prop to "hold" them "little doggies" in place while they install them.

The bungee just maintains a little torque on the shift dogs to keep the lower shift shaft from moving while the drive is slid into the gimbal
 

ziggy

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Re: Throttle position

this is a pic of a 1 drive (much older than yours)(drive tilted up, laying on my back looking under the drive looking up). yer gen II will appear different, but the principles the same i believe.

IMG_1516.jpg


this coupler is in neutral. if you were to try to slide the drive off in this condition you'll bend a shift shaft. when in fwd. this coupler will be facing fwd. allowing you to slide the drive off. allowing the shift shaft to slide apart. if this drive were in rev. the coupler would be turned even further to port. further restricting removal of the drive. for sure making something bend prior to it letting you remove the drive. all yer doing (when shifting the remote) is moving the shift cable when the drive is off.
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this is a pic of the shift slide. it moves in and out (fore and aft even) with the lower shift cable as you move the shift lever at the helm into fwd, neu. or rev.. the shift lever (in the pic. the part with the whiteish yellowish looking grease blob on th end of it) is moved by this slide. it transfers the motion into roterery motion. turning it the upper shift shaft which is the upper part of the coupler in the 1st pic.... as you can see. these need to be stright ahead, in fwd even. to allow proper disasembly or reassembly... put everything in fwd. prior to removal. or reassembly of putting the drive on and off... shifting while the drive is off is irrelevant best i can tell. just be sure to put it all in fwd. prior to reassembly...
for facts on yer gen II drive. go look here. http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=251571
and get #14....
 

HT32BSX115

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Re: Throttle position

Yes it's the same concept but he's got GEN II drives so the hardware looks a little different
 

torcano

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Re: Throttle position

Thanks! You guys are really good. The link to the service manual was also very helpful. I am going to print it our for future reference. Looking at the photos of the stendrive I would imagine you would have to basically force the sterndrive off when the clutch is not in forward.
 

Don S

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Re: Throttle position

Looking at the photos of the stendrive I would imagine you would have to basically force the sterndrive off when the clutch is not in forward.

That is exactly what you have to do, and it usually bends and damages the shift shafts or the shoe, it's even worse when you try to force it back together.
 

chiefalen

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Re: Throttle position

Forward is froward, you ok don't worry be happy. I heard oasis is one of the better marinas around.
 

torcano

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Re: Throttle position

Oasis? I'm down in Comstock down in Brick.
RK
 

chiefalen

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Re: Throttle position

See i'm getting old i'll ask about comstock, another guy asked me about oasis.
 

muc

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Re: Throttle position

Seems to me the 29 Sig should have a counter rotating drive on the port side.
If so you might want the port shift lever in reverse.
Good Luck Muc
thats for Alpha ----
 
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torcano

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Re: Throttle position

I'm pretty sure my boat has counter rotating props. The sterndrives were removed by the marina where they have have been removing sterndrives on hundreds of boat for the past 35 years. I have to believe that they know what they are doing. I assume when they put the sterndrives back on they will (hopefully) check that the throttle for each engine is in the proper position. I am paying them some pretty good money to have it done by the pros. If I have a problem in April, you'll see a lot of posts from me at that time.:)
RK
 

Don S

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Re: Throttle position

I assume when they put the sterndrives back on they will (hopefully) check that the throttle for each engine is in the proper position.

If they have any knowledge of Alpha drives at all, they know they have to be in forward for the drives to go back on. It's just something you know hou have to do.
I would suggest you stop worring about it. When you take the boat to them in the spring, remind them. But don't spend the rest of the winter obsessing over little things like that. it will make you crazy.
 
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