Tinting paint?

bonz_d

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Been looking for a red paint to use on my project and just can't find a red dark enough that the wife and I like. Any of you tried tinting a color darker? How would you do it w/o wasting a lot of paint?
 

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Re: Tinting paint?

Grey or brown darkens red....mix apples to apples IE: gloss enamel to gloss enamel, ect.

You wont waste any paint, you will just have more of it. Best to take the red as the base, then add measured amounts of grey till you find the shade you like, then record the mix ratio..
 

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Re: Tinting paint?

First of all what type paint is it, Enamel, Latex, Acrylic Urethane, Lacquer, Epoxy or what..? Most paint stores of any type can tint or darken their paints if asked. Doing it yourself could lead to a recipe that can’t be duplicated later on. If you still want to do it yourself, I would use black as my darkening tint and go really a little at a time until you like it. Just keep track of the amounts used so you could duplicate it if you have to...
 

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How would you do it w/o wasting a lot of paint?

Small test batch to see what you like, tinting color and amount, then mix up what you're going to use in an extra gallon can bought from the paint store.

I'm not tinting expert (not even close), but have watched the paint store guys tint something for me and was amazed at the tint color they chose, and it turned out perfect. You added ______ to get that color?!? I would have never thought to choose that tint color...

Zool's suggestion of brown sounds appropriate to me. (but I no nothing on paint tinting :facepalm:)
 

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Ben Moore has the darkest reds in the paint stores. Red is a very pigmented color and to get the dark ones you have to max out the pigment portion of the brew. Field mixing may lead to instability.
 

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Re: Tinting paint?

Yeah I already thought about using red as the base and I already have a can of Rustolium red that I was going to use on something else but didn't. But even when I look at Petitt, Interlux or Supermarine the reds all look very bright red.

I understand that I don't need to use marine paint on an aluminum boat so besides Rustolium what else id there? Also the plan is to roll it on, don't have a sprayer.
 

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Are you trying to make it redder? Or tone it down a bit?

The brown or grey suggestion above is you best choice to tone it down but the gotcha is you never mix differ brands or sheen levels as they all use different driers and leveling chemicals. By the time you buy the same brand to mix you might as well buy a new can of paint.
 

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Re: Tinting paint?

Thanks guys, have to go to bed so I can work tonight. Will mull this over and be back tomorrow with more questions!
 

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Re: Tinting paint?

Like has already been stated, stick with like paints...same gloss, same brands...
If you add blue, it will get more purple...if you add brown to the purple, it will turn more maroon...I use the finger paint test method to mix colors...get a white piece of cardboard, dip your finger in the red and smear it on the cardboard, then using one of your tinting colors begin adding some to the red, continue until you get the desired color...if you don't get the look you want start over and add a different second, third, etc color to the red...this will give you a basic understanding of what colors do to each other and an idea of the amounts required to achieve the results, then scale it up...
Do you have MS Paint on your computer?
If yes, click on it and look at the upper corner where the colors are...there is a box that says Edit Colors...click on it and you can play with color shading, it will also give you a fairly good representation of the percentage values used to achieve your desired color choice...
 

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Re: Tinting paint?

Ace Rust stop paint available at Ace Hardware. They have base paint which can be tinted. They can tint to any color chip they have in the store or anything flat that they can color scan.. It costs $35/ gallon IIRC. Buy what you need and mix them together if more than 1 gallon
 

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Re: Tinting paint?

Mornin everyone!

Yes the thought and plan was to use one type and brand just for the sake of compatablity. As with the Rustolium marine paint there are just a limited number of colors to chose from and use. Same seems true for Pettit and Interlux while Supermarine seems to offer the most colors.

I know it's hard to tell true colors as viewed on a computer screen but the color I'd like to come close to is the red that Alumacraft is using called Canyon Red. It appears to be a deep dark red but I guess I should go see it in person to be certain.

GT, I like your suggestion on trail and error mixing then the question becomes where does one get small samples to work with w/o having to buy whole qts. of different colors?
 

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Re: Tinting paint?

You certainly can go to any auto paint store and view the millions of colors available and have them mix up the paint for you. Or even take a sample of the color you want and they can computer match and mix the paint. And auto paint will work perfectly on your project too at nearly the same prices. And they will also give you the paint code so if you ever have to touch up or redo a portion you will have the mixing code... Just a thought...
 

bonz_d

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gm280, that would be great accept I don't believe auto paint rolls on very well.
 

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That Canyon Red appears to be a current Alumacraft color. Maybe they can give you the paint code, and you could get it mixed in a gloss enamel.
 

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Re: Tinting paint?

also, restoration shop line has a good selection of reds, and a single stage acrylic enamel or urethane may produce decent results rolled on.

The price is for a full kit, with everything you need.

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Re: Tinting paint?

What everybody has already said is good advice. You may be able to buy universal colorants at menards. The colorant is pigment so you won't end up with 5 gal of paint by the time you are thru. The problem comes in with ''hot mix'' colors being matched up later. If you are gonna do it that way make sure you have not only enough for yor project but some left over for any misses you find or touch up. If you go to any of the paint stores the should be able to tint it to whatever you want and then give you a formula for anything in the future. Good luck.
 

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Re: Tinting paint?

Thanks to everyone. Me thinks I'm gonna haves to think on this some more!

Yes the Canyon Red is a current color. I haven't talked to a dealer as of yet but I have searched hi and low to try and find the paint code on the web. Can find it for all the Lunds but not for Alumacraft.

Sure there are a bunch of cool automotive colors and we have a couple parts stores that will mix anything you want including Imron but I'm not equipt to spray and I can't justify the expense of having someone else do it.

Have also thought about doing it in black as that is also a current Alumacraft color just not sure how I'd like it.
 

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Re: Tinting paint?

It was many many years ago but I knew a fellow who painted an old car with a 100% nylon brush using a light touch and slightly thinned paint. It wasn't a factory finish but it looked darn good for an old junker.
 
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