Titan Model 10 Hitch

sam60

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Re: Titan Model 10 Hitch

that is exactly why I prefer a toggle switch on the dash... put it in drive... gas it a little and then flip the switch... now you can back anywhere as many times as you need to.... I also install a bright red light labeled brake override

I really need to get going on this. It's been almost a year ..:D
 

Reel Kahuna

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I installed a complete Titan 10" disc assy and within 2 months I had no brakes. I bled and re-bled but no pressure in the m/c when braking. I called Titan who sent me a compete assy replacement, swapped over and on the first trip, it showed sign of leak at the reverse lock out thread. I tightened the fitting but still leaked so I applied thread sealer which fixed the leak. Not complaining, just sharing my experience with Titan.
 

Thalasso

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I think I will go forward and order the reverse lockout solenoid.

Your drum brakes are free backing. You don't need a solenoid for free backing brakes. I would fix the hitch and look at the master cyl before anything else. The master cyl might not be releasing the pressure because of your hitch problem. Look at this site.

www.etrailer.com/answers.aspx?productgroup=Trailer Brakes
 

sam60

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Your drum brakes are free backing. You don't need a solenoid for free backing brakes. I would fix the hitch and look at the master cyl before anything else. The master cyl might not be releasing the pressure because of your hitch problem. Look at this site.

www.etrailer.com/answers.aspx?productgroup=Trailer Brakes

They lock up when backing up any incline. How/why are they free backing?004.jpg
 

Thalasso

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They lock up when backing up any incline. How/why are they free backing?View attachment 147498
Did you go to the web site and read the reasons that might create your problem. I have exactly the same brake setup you showed and have absoloutly no problems.cure the actuator problem first



Basically, a free backing brake assembly like # T4423400, will have one shoe that is shorter than the other and the bracket will be a different shape. On a regular assembly, the shoes will by mirror images of each other. Also, on a free backing assembly, you would be able to back up.

Also if the actuator has a reverse lockout on it, make sure it is engaged so you can back up. There are 2 types of lockout: manual and electric. A manual lockout will have a lever on the coupler that you have to physically push into the lockout position and it will be labeled.

An electric lockout uses a wire, attached to the reverse light circuit on the vehicle and a solenoid on the coupler, to engage the solenoid and not allow fluid to go back to the brakes when the vehicle is put in reverse.

A free backing brake will apply the brakes at first but then release as you continue to back up. If you do have free backing brakes that are not allowing you to back up, it could be a problem with the wheel cylinder, air in the lines, or the brakes may be too aggressively adjusted.

If the wheel cylinder is malfunctioning, you would need to replace it. For Titan 10 inch hydraulic brakes like what you have referenced, use # T0977700 (right hand side) or # T0977600 (left hand side).

If you suspect there is air in the lines, you will need to bleed the brakes again. I have included a link to a video showing the brake bleeding process our installers follow.

If the brakes are adjusted too tight, it could cause the problem. You would either need to apply more force to get the free backing brakes to disengage, or re-adjust the brakes. When you are adjusting the brakes, you want to be able to spin the wheel (with the brakes NOT engaged) and you should be able to hear the pad drag a little on the inside of the drum.
 

sam60

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Did you go to the web site and read the reasons that might create your problem. I have exactly the same brake setup you showed and have absoloutly no problems.cure the actuator problem first



Basically, a free backing brake assembly like # T4423400, will have one shoe that is shorter than the other and the bracket will be a different shape. On a regular assembly, the shoes will by mirror images of each other. Also, on a free backing assembly, you would be able to back up.

Also if the actuator has a reverse lockout on it, make sure it is engaged so you can back up. There are 2 types of lockout: manual and electric. A manual lockout will have a lever on the coupler that you have to physically push into the lockout position and it will be labeled.

An electric lockout uses a wire, attached to the reverse light circuit on the vehicle and a solenoid on the coupler, to engage the solenoid and not allow fluid to go back to the brakes when the vehicle is put in reverse.

A free backing brake will apply the brakes at first but then release as you continue to back up. If you do have free backing brakes that are not allowing you to back up, it could be a problem with the wheel cylinder, air in the lines, or the brakes may be too aggressively adjusted.

If the wheel cylinder is malfunctioning, you would need to replace it. For Titan 10 inch hydraulic brakes like what you have referenced, use # T0977700 (right hand side) or # T0977600 (left hand side).

If you suspect there is air in the lines, you will need to bleed the brakes again. I have included a link to a video showing the brake bleeding process our installers follow.

If the brakes are adjusted too tight, it could cause the problem. You would either need to apply more force to get the free backing brakes to disengage, or re-adjust the brakes. When you are adjusting the brakes, you want to be able to spin the wheel (with the brakes NOT engaged) and you should be able to hear the pad drag a little on the inside of the drum.

I have the standard non-reverse lockout drum brakes. 10" x 2-1/4" Uni-servo non-premier. I called the manufacturer last year and they said my setup is not free backing.....?
 

sam60

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Didn't find the link to the video.
 
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