Toyota Tundra...which V-8 and why?

[TilliamWe]

Re: Toyota Tundra...which V-8 and why?

Yes, keep laughing..... Which Truck was just selected as Motor Trend Truck of the Year?

No one in their right mind would drive a truck across that terrain at that speed. Not what I consider real world.

Yes, but who's big V-8 had broken camshafts that required a recall? And who just recalled their 4wd trucks for a driveshaft failure issue? The Motor Trend Truck of the Year, that's who.

So at least for the first year of the new Tundra, I'd stick with the 4.7, until they are certain all the 5.7 stuff is corrected.

 

[Ezrider_92356]

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i like toyotas but when it comes to buying a full size truck with a v8 id go chevy or ford for one thing they have been building fullsize trucks and v8's sense the begining of time (well not literaly) but toyota is a new commer to v8's let alone full size trucks there going to have alot of bugs to work out over the years. then when it comes to buying a bran new vehical i dont care if there made in the us or not the big cooperate profits go out of the country. but id never buy off the show room floor anywhaz so it dosent matter in my situation ill let somone else take the huge inital depritation. as far as the vidio goes if you go off the highway at 65 mph you could easily see conditions more severe than whats shown in the video. there was one time i did something more severe to my jeep when doing about 45 down a snow covered dirt road and hit an area that was badly rutted out but hidden under the snow. i shouldent have been going that fast to begin with but thats besides the point. when looking for a full size truck id personaly stay away from toyota a compact truck i wouldent blink an eye at an toyota iv owned more than one and they are great trucks

 

[newbie4life]

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Quotes from Tundra Solutions

".........Because the situation in the Ford video is so unique, we really don?t think you should put much stock in it."


Oh yeah..... Tundra Made in the USA Where are the others built??

I'm curious what's going on further into the frame of the Motor Trend Truck of the Year. Put a travel trailer or fifth wheel on the back end of the sucker, and lets see the body move around. The back of that cab's sure gonna look good.

As for the made in the USA comment.... I'll give you that they're ASSEMBLED here. But if you think the profits are staying here, you got another thing comin'.

 

[newbie4life]

Re: Toyota Tundra...which V-8 and why?

Yes, but who's big V-8 had broken camshafts that required a recall? And who just recalled their 4wd trucks for a driveshaft failure issue? The Motor Trend Truck of the Year, that's who.

So at least for the first year of the new Tundra, I'd stick with the 4.7, until they are certain all the 5.7 stuff is corrected.

Yeah, but the driveshaft thing only involves the 4x4 trucks that have driveshafts.

....... oh, wait a minute.

 

[gonefishie]

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Yeah, someone dug up an oldie alright! Who's better then who's bickering will never die, there are always different opinions and the blind loyals never die either. We can't believe in any of those so called "independence test", they're all rigged to satisfied whoever willing to pay for the "test". Wonder what the starter of this thread ended up with? What did you get Bigprairie1????????????

 

[i386]

Re: Toyota Tundra...which V-8 and why?

FWIW From MyCarStats.com...

F150 Recalls from 2000-2007: 72
F150 Service Bulletins from 2000-2008: 808

Silverado Recalls from 2000-2007: 83
Silverado Service Bulletins from 2000-2008: 2590

Tundra Recalls from 2000-2006: 28 ** 2007 data not listed
Tundra Service Bulletins from 2000-2008: 216

As far as the video goes... Everything has a resonant frequency. A better test would have been to run a series of tests at different speeds. I think all models may bounce like that at a given speed but not the same speed. It's also important to remember that no component can be engineered to excel at everything. There's always a trade off somewhere. With data from many tests, one would be tasked with deciding which results would influence their decision to buy a particular model.


If the Tundra's longevity and reliability turn out to be anything like their smaller trucks, they'll be around for a long time.

Competition is good for us consumers. I just hope they really compete with the trucks and not the marketing.

 

[newbie4life]

Re: Toyota Tundra...which V-8 and why?

One thing that doesn't show up in your generalization of recall numbers, and TSBs is where the problem is. For instance, there was a HUGE recall of Silverado pickups, across the board (1500, 2500, 3500, etc.). Every model was affected.............


.....for the tailgate cables. After a period of years, they may rust, and not support the tailgate.

We're talking camshafts, drive shafts, something that will definately leave you sitting along the side of a road.

 

[Bigprairie1]

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...some great opinions here on the Toyota stuff. I've owned several Toyota's, all substantially lighter duty than Tundra's, and they have all been superior vehicles. I mean from a reliability and minimal problems. Hence the reason to consider the Tundra.
That said, I've shifted away from the Tundra Option a bit and am currently hunting for a quality used Silverado 2500HD/Duramax/4wd.
I wouldn't buy new 'anything' given my natural aversion to the depreciation issue. It's also easier to buy used these days due to the very high quality of pretty much all (used) vehicles. You have to actual look hard to find a lemon.
A lot of you will remember those sad Detroit days of the late 70's and the 80's where finding something to last a month without a problem was a major endeavor. I think of it as the 'velour' era of auto manufacturing. Anyhow, this how the jap manufacturers got their market share. Now the N.American makers are going to have to continue to wipe out the memory of the marginal machines produced during that period. It's working but its going to take a little while longer I think.
Anyone remember when Cadillac was a term used for something exceptionally high end and well built? (I think they are probably a lot better than people give them credit for these days.....again due to 'that' era).
...one thing about the new Tundra....although it looks quite big now...it doesn't really look 'heavy duty'. When you peer in the wheel wells at the springs, driveshaft, etc....it still seems a little light compared to the (proven) heavy duty North American trucks....or is it just me?

 

[Bob_VT]

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We have been selling the "new" Tundra here since Feb. NONE have come back for problems such as cam shafts (which was noted it was from a poor manufacturer and the few that had them are being replaced free) no failures here. No driveshaft problems either.

We had one come back with a tailgate malfunction.... a inner clip came off or was not fully attached.

Basically no major problems here. The biggest complaint is wiping the smile off the faces of the new owner's face. On an average people have been getting between 15-17 mpg and just a note...... this is 4wd territory but we have sold one 2 wd out of close to 200 full size trucks. We since took that 2 wd in trade for a 4wd.

Newbie4life no one is brand smashing here except you and if you have not realized it ......we do not do it. If you want to continue that thought process ..... do it elsewhere. If you read through the topics and somone has a problem with ANY brand truck/car/suv/boat or otherwise.... people do not trash brands and just give sound advice. Get the picture.

 

[newbie4life]

Re: Toyota Tundra...which V-8 and why?

Newbie4life no one is brand smashing here except you and if you have not realized it ......we do not do it. If you want to continue that thought process ..... do it elsewhere. If you read through the topics and somone has a problem with ANY brand truck/car/suv/boat or otherwise.... people do not trash brands and just give sound advice. Get the picture.

Bob_VT -

As for 'brand smashing', I guess after looking at the posts, it could be taken as that. It's really not what I was intending on doing. I apologize for 'taking aim' at your employer. However, 'brand smashing' as you call it, is something that IS done on this site. Don't believe me? Look up Bayliner in the search function. Is it 'brand smashing', or someone stating their opinion?

I am actually an awful lot like Bigprairie1 -- I remember. I remember what America actually meant. It's disappointing to see the American Dollar dropping in value. It's disappointing to see our patriotism take a back seat.

We are giving the Japanese our money. In your words, "Get the picture."

Where I come from, I was raised that if you needed a house built, and your local builder will do a good job, you get the local guy. Why? He keeps his money local too. Around here, we buy from the local lumber yard, and he will hire local guys to work on his stuff.

So, in essence, it wasn't an attack on Toyota, or their cheating at NASCAR (oops, had to get one more in. Sorry. ). I'm sure they have a fine automobile, and once they get beyond their recalls of 15,600 driveshafts, they'll be fine. But in actuallity, it's more of a patriotism thing. As much as I disagree with the unions, I will buy from the 'Big Three'. To me, it just makes good business sense. Why give someone money overseas, when we have a good and capable product, for the same (or in most cases, less) money..... And, if you buy GM, you'll have a 100k warranty. If you buy a Dodge, it's for the life you own the truck.

I apologize if my opinon is disagreeing with yours. But, I'm entitled to it, as well as you are to yours.

I guess I'll never change, as apparently, you won't either... so we'll agree to disagree.

 

[Bob_VT]

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Bob_VT -

Why give someone money overseas, when we have a good and capable product, for the same (or in most cases, less) money..... And, if you buy GM, you'll have a 100k warranty. If you buy a Dodge, it's for the life you own the truck.

I apologize if my opinon is disagreeing with yours. But, I'm entitled to it, as well as you are to yours.

I guess I'll never change, as apparently, you won't either... so we'll agree to disagree.

I will agree to disagree.

Read the "lifetime warranties" and pay attention to the details of what is covered. Folger's coffee is mountain grown...... most is but Folger's used it in their advertising. Many of the parts that fall under the lifetime warranty are parts that never fail. Please don't misunderstand that it is a good marketing ploy but if the fine print is followed to the letter then you must use all original OEM parts for repairs. It will become clearer over the years to come. There are alot of caveats involved.

 

[gonefishie]

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I apologize for laughing because everytime I heard someone use the "the profits stay here" argument. I'm still laughing.......Everyone of these automaker companies are publicly traded companies. Which means the profit gets spread out all over the world. At least the Tundras are build in Texas and Indiana which helps put money in your fellow American workers pocket.

 

[Vlad D Impeller]

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I'm curious what's going on further into the frame of the Motor Trend Truck of the Year. Put a travel trailer or fifth wheel on the back end of the sucker, and lets see the body move around. The back of that cab's sure gonna look good.

As for the made in the USA comment.... I'll give you that they're ASSEMBLED here. But if you think the profits are staying here, you got another thing comin'.

They hire American workers who get paid in US$, the workers pay taxes and spend their money in their local communities. If Toyota keeps reinvesting in America it matters not where the profits go. The Japanese are still one of our largest trading partners.

 

[Fergus20]

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I agree would not worry about it too much.

 

[642mx]

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Wow! What an old thread. Before the mods lock this baby down, let me add my 2 pennies....

I've had both the 4.7L Tundra and 5.7L Tundra. There is NO reason to buy the 4.7L Tundra. The 5.7L does everything better and gets better fuel economy.