Transom, floor, etc. adds up to a lot of work **NEW PICS**

lawyertob

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Originally posted by swimmin' for shore:<br /> Like your boat, Joe. Looks like enough room for everyone. Where's the beer cooler go?
Well Swimmer, I don't wanna sound preachy, and I hope that I don't get kicked off the board for statements that some might consider sacrilegious ;) ...but I have always been a firm believer that horsepower and alcohol don't mix.<br /><br />However, if you look close at the pics on the Classic Glastron site, you will see that originally there was a built in ice chest just in front of the splash well. The teak board that held it in place is still there, as well as a vinyl cover with snaps. When I get the ten million other things done, I will probably see if I can find a cooler that will make a good fit...for water and soft drinks, of course...I gotta set a good example for my son. :) <br /><br />Another $0.02 worth,<br />Joe
 

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Originally posted by CTD:<br /> You can remove your e mail now I got it. The pic you posted is the same as I have.<br />Dave
Dave,<br /><br />Thanks for sending the pics. I don't think that I had seen all of them before. I think the web site I linked to only has a couple of those pages. I have all the original manuals and such for the motor and the boat...heck, I even have the manual for the winch on the trailer. The lady I bought it from apparently never threw anything away...but I guess she never had a brochure.<br /><br />Anyway, thanks for the pics. I may never be able to restore the gel coat to its original shine, but I can guarantee that it will be much better structurally than it was new. And, who knows, all that oxidation may buff right out...though I have heard that you have to be really careful not to burn the gelcoat.<br /><br />Thanks again,<br />Joe
 

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Joe, it's not sacriligious to think that beer and HP don't mix. It's good common sense. I was being a little facetious. Depending on what you're fishing for, the cooler's always good for lunch, or just to keep your fish in if you're out overnight. Lots of uses to a good cooler.
 

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Mr Glastron, I enjoyed your pics. thanks for sharing them w/us. enjoy your new hobby, is this your first boat restoration project? <br /> You will have much satisfaction when you are finished w/this. I sure, all who have completed one of these projects will agree on the amount of confidence that is found when your'e out and the water turns rough. "do it right, do it yourself"...sl<br /><br />PS nice rope!
 

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Originally posted by swimmin' for shore:<br /> . . . Depending on what you're fishing for, the cooler's always good for lunch, or just to keep your fish in if you're out overnight. Lots of uses to a good cooler.
Hehe Swimmer,<br /><br />You have to keep in mind that I am in Texas ... over 100 degrees in the summer. You have to ice down the fish just to get them to shore. ;) And if you don't bring something cold to drink, then that muddy lake water starts almost looking good after a while. ;) <br /><br />Another $0.02 worth,<br />Joe
 

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Originally posted by steve n carol:<br /> Mr Glastron, I enjoyed your pics. thanks for sharing them w/us. enjoy your new hobby, is this your first boat restoration project? <br /> <br />PS nice rope!
Mr. and Ms. Steve and Carol,<br /> Thanks for the kind words...more pics coming soon. Yes, this is my first project boat. I honestly think that if it wasn't for the info and support that I have found on the iBoats Forums, that I might have decided the job was too much. Besides, now I can't quit or everyone will know ;) <br /> As for the rope, I guess you were noticing that I didn't want to cut my shiny new rope, so I tied it so that I didn't have to...oh well, gotta save a penny or two when restoring an old boat. :) <br /><br />Just my $0.02 worth,<br />Joe
 

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Don't know if you're by yourself or not. If there is a Mrs. or another partner, maybe a son or daughter, bring them in on this project and that way, the will possably develop a passion for the finished project. Oh yeah, I almost forgot, now that you have a boat, (even if it's not your first boat), go and get a second job. That you will have plenty of $$$ to spend on it! ha ha...have fun...sl
 

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Okay, I have some new pics up, but I am going to give it a day or so for the host to get all his servers synced up...maybe that will avoid the initial problems we had last time. I will probably write it all up tomorrow. The link to the whole album is More Joe's Glastron T-186 . The album links seemed to work well last time. Descriptions will follow tomorrow.<br /><br />Not even $0.01 worth,<br />Joe
 

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Okay everyone, here is the new round of pics I promised. Before you ask, yes, it is taking me forever...I am taking it nice and slow, and doing LOTS of research along the way. I want to do this once and only once.<br /><br />Here is the link to the whole album of pictures. More Joe's Glastron T-186 album <br /><br /><br />And here are the individual pics with commentary:<br /><br />This is the inside surface of the outer transom fiberglass. The cracks are barely deep enough to get a fingernail in for the most part. It seem like the old transom was slathered with peanut butter epoxy and then dropped in. I am not sure if I need to try to get that layer off or not. Opinions? Also, the outer skin has in inward curve that I am pretty sure isn't supposed to be there.cracks on inside of transom skin <br /><br />This was the first step of removing the floor. I was fairly certain that I wouldn't cut through anything important here, and it let me be able to see more of what was under the floor. I cut carefully with a Dremel tool just deep enough to go through the glass. cutting splashwell floor <br /><br />Then, I cut around the bilge pump pit far enough down to be below the plywood. cutting around bilge sump <br /><br />The plywood was only held down by a few very rusted staples, and came right off. At least the foam was dry. first section of floor out <br /><br />The driver side stringer is slightly rotten in the end, but most of it seems solid. rotten stringer <br /><br />The cross support is almost completely rotten. rotten support <br /><br />This is after I have the first eight feet of floor removed. The floor rests only on the stringers and the upcurved section of the hull. In front of the chines the outside six inches or so of floor was only supported by a layer of fiberglass cloth connecting it to the hull. Eight feet removed <br /><br />This support board was not doing any good at all. rotten <br /><br />Left Stringer looks good...but if you squeeze it, then it will flex in some spots...almost like there was nothing inside. I know that most of the strength is in the glass, not the board...but it will have to be replaced. hollow stringer <br /><br />This is a picture of the busted old glove box. Believe it or not, it was originally that glaring orange color. In any case, I am going to mount just the door over the hole and build a new bottom for four times as much storage. glove box <br /><br />This is hopefully the last of the previous occupants. Note that it is almost as big as the matchbox beside it. spider <br /><br />This is the old dash. Duct tape anyone? old dash <br /><br />This is the dash with the steering wheel removed. I probably won't keep any of this. steering wheel removed <br /><br />And this is the dash with all the crappy plastic removed. I think it is going to look much better as gelcoat with a new fabricated gage panel. Dash sans plastic <br /><br />This is a closeup of the old BIA plate. I would like to get a new one made...but that is a different thread. BIA plate <br /><br />Well, that is enough for now. Tune in next week for the stringer replacement and who knows what else. I am leaning towards either Dricon treated or Wolmanized plywood (both kiln dried) for the floor and Seacast for the transom. I still haven't decided whether I am going to use poly or epoxy resin. Any opinions are welcome.<br /><br />Another $0.02 worth,<br />Joe
 

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If you use the seacast, please post how it goes. I've got my I/O to deal with when I get home from sea, and really dreading taking on such a big project with no experience. If I do it, though, I'm planning to go with seacast. I'd love to hear how you went about everything. <br />In reply to what S n C said, I'll be your son if you leave me your boat. There's always room in the yard for a 4th. :)
 

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Originally posted by steve n carol:<br /> Don't know if you're by yourself or not. If there is a Mrs. or another partner, maybe a son or daughter, bring them in on this project and that way, the will possably develop a passion for the finished project. Oh yeah, I almost forgot, now that you have a boat, (even if it's not your first boat), go and get a second job. That you will have plenty of $$$ to spend on it! ha ha...have fun...sl
S n C,<br /><br /> Sorry for the delay in response, I am sure it was a Freudian slip. Actually, I am all alone on this one...long story, don't really want to get into it...but when I am doing this kind of work I really like to work alone. That way if I want to stare at something for a half hour before I decide exactly how I want to do it, then I don't have to worry about someone else getting impatient. :) <br /><br /> As for money, well, a boat is nothing but a hole in the water that you throw money into. ;) <br /><br />Another $0.02 worth,<br />Joe
 

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Originally posted by swimmin' for shore:<br /> If you use the seacast, please post how it goes. I've got my I/O to deal with when I get home from sea, and really dreading taking on such a big project with no experience. If I do it, though, I'm planning to go with seacast. I'd love to hear how you went about everything. <br />In reply to what S n C said, I'll be your son if you leave me your boat. There's always room in the yard for a 4th. :)
Swimmer,<br /> Well, the Seacast seems to be the way to go if you can afford it. It is probably overkill, but we see that everyday on here. And, for peace of mind that you will NEVER have to redo a transom again, I think it is worth it. I am probably going to use the Seacast for my stringer repair also. In any case, I will take lots of pics, for the next person who comes along.<br /> <br /> As for adopting you...well, although the "Who's your Daddy?" jokes are tempting, I will have to pass. I already have a son, though he is now a teenager and hasn't even talked to me for a couple of months. I am sure that whenever he gets over whatever teen angst he is going through right now, that he will insist on being the one to inherit the boat. ;) I am chuckling over adding a codicil to my will that says since he was being a PIA during the rebuild that he can't have the boat when I croak...heck, maybe I will leave it to you after all. ;) Oh well, enough about the saga between my son and I...like I said to S n C, I don't want to get into that on here.<br /> <br /> Finally, you say you are going to sea...are you a member of Uncle Sam's Canoe Club? I was a Submariner myself, way back when.<br /> <br />Another $0.02 worth,<br />Joe
 

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Yes Joe. I'm a member of the canoe club. Fiberglass doesn't seem to rust as much as steel canoes, though. Already deployed, too, about 3 weeks ago. We've grand plans to be out for the next 3 1/2 months yet, and I'm guessing closer to 6. You know how it goes if you've been in before. <br />I'm really sorry that you can't adopt me. Enlist your kid, and I'll trade him places. So long as I'm in the will, I'm guaranteed to talk to you and might even be willing to pitch a hand and learn something about pouring transoms. :)
 

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Hmmm, I have just gotten a mid to late 70s Munro Bowrider with a 115 Johnson on it. Both need work and TLC. It is getting a little chilly up here in Canada, so I will start it in Spring. Here are a few shots of mine. I suspect it will take a few months (LOL - years says wifey!) but in the end she is going to be great. Anyone who can identify the boat would be doing me a great favour too!<br /><br />The side view: http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/421577726/1.jpg <br />From the front:<br /> http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/421577726/0.jpg <br />The seats will be useful as patterns only - too rotten for anything else!<br /> http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/421577726/3.jpg <br />The Munro Boats logo is just visible here:<br /> http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/421577726/2.jpg
 
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