Transom Repair

[donnyskz1]

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THIS IS HOW IT LOOKED WHEN WE FILLED THE TRANSOM

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ANOTHER PICTURE OF HOW IT LOOKED

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THIS IS SOME THAT WAS LEFT IN OVER IN A BUCKET THAT I REMOVED AFTER IT WAS DRY. AFTER ABOUT 5 HOURS MY NEIGHBOR AND I BOTH HIT IT WITH THE 10 POUND MALL BETWEEN THE 2 OF US ABOUT 20 TIMES AND IT STILL DID NOT BREAK.

THE NIDABOND POURED VERY EASILY AND WAS ACTUALLY SET UP IN ABOUT 30 MINUTES. AS IT WAS CURING WE COULD FEEL THE HEAT COMING OFF THE BACK OF THE TRANSOM.

 

[Nandy]

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How many galons you need for the transom? What about the stringers if you are doing those too...

 

[danond]

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Sorry guys new to the site but not to boating i have been in this business for over 10yrs and i own my own business and do a ton of Glass repair including stringers and transoms and to be honest i have never seen any of the above listed stuff in any WELCRAFT boats and i have put in numerous transoms in all makes and models and the only way to fix the transom is to cut out the existing glass and wood and put new back in. Do not waste your time and hard earned money on the quick fix products. If the transom is roted then the moisture is still trapped between the glass layers and it needs to be removed

Look into Seacast. When used correctly it's a forever solution, better and faster than wood. There's a reason there's no wood in many new boats.

 

[donnyskz1]

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I Used About 13 Gallons Of Nidabond. I Must Have Miscalculated Wrong Somewhere When I Was Thinking About Using Seacast I Calculated That I Would Need 26 Gallons. When I Sent Those Numbers To Nidabond That Calulated That I Needed 24 Gallons Of There Stuff. I Guess That I Could Use This For Stringers I Dont See Why It Would Not Work. Nidabond Does Have Another Pourable Compound That Is For Stringers. The Price Per Bucket Is The Same As The Transom Compound. As You Can See In One Of The Pictures When They Say Pourable They Meant It.

 

[92excel]

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If you had ply of a similar shape and dimension to what was left in the bucket what do you think the weight ratio is? What i am asking: is this stuff heavier or lighter then wood once its cured?

 

[bowman316]

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If you were doing stringers with it, wouldn't you need to get the floor completly level, if not it would be like pouring concrete on a hill. Right?

Or is it thick enough that it will stay where you put it?

 

[donnyskz1]

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I Would Say That It Is A Little Bit Heavier Than Regular Ply. It It Was Treated Ply The Weight Would Be Close To The Same. Each 5 Gallon Bucket Weighs About 36 Pounds. I Used 2 1/2 Buckets So My Total Weight That I Put In Was About 90 Pounds One Sheet Of Treated Ply Weighs About 50 Pounds When It Is Wet. When It Is Dry It Probably Weighs About 40 Pounds So The Wieght Factor By The Time You Coat The Wood And Glass It In Is Going To Be Close.


The Nidabond Is Thin Enough That It Probaly Will Run At First But The Gel Time On It Is About 30 Minutes So If You Were To Wait Just To It Starting To Gel I Dont Think You Would Have A Problem. When I Was Pouring It In The Transom I Had 2 Small Holes In The Inner Liner That I Did Not Realize Were There. I Tried To Stop Them By Putting A Piece O Duct Tape Over Them And It Helped. It Still Oozed For About Another Couple Of Minutes Then It Stopped As The Stuff Started To Gel

 

[Mark42]

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Is There A Special Tool Needed To Crimp The End Of The Brass Drain Tube. The Tube That Goes Through The Transom So That Water Can Get Out Of The Splashwell?

There are also plastic two piece drain tubes that press/snap together. They are nice because there is a pre-finished end on both pieces. They are in the marine store for $1.93. Made by Seadog, a supplier of quality marine parts.

Might save a lot of problems trying to crimp the brass.

And you won't get any green stains as the brass weathers and ages.

 

[mike64]

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You said you weren't going to remove the cap-- how did you deal with the higher right and left sides of the transom? Looks like you could remove the wood from the sides easily enough, but how did you get the pour to the top of the sides without removing the cap? Or am I missing something?

Interesting stuff--looks like dried Elmers Glue.

 

[lowkee]

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Seeing as it worked so well for you, I am going to order a bucket for my transom as well (see my project in my tag for details). Thanks for posting your transom project, as we would never know to use it if you hadn't pointed it out.

One question for you. What did you do about the outdrive hole? Did you bolt a board over it or ..? Could you post s picture or two of your outdrive opening, so I can see what mine should look like?

Thanks again, you made digging into my transom much less frightening! I even used my gas chainsaw for it.. and man was that easier!

 

[peacekeeper6]

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he has an outboard. chainsaw is a mans best friend.

 

[jonesg]

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You said you weren't going to remove the cap-- how did you deal with the higher right and left sides of the transom? Looks like you could remove the wood from the sides easily enough, but how did you get the pour to the top of the sides without removing the cap? Or am I missing something?

Interesting stuff--looks like dried Elmers Glue.

I used seacast but heres how I did the transom risers on either side of the outboard cutout.
fit a strip of wood to cover the opening, duct tape in place,
leave a small 2 inch gap at the top and make a 3 sided funnel from alum flashing.
Pour the resin, fill it up and leave a small amount of excess resin in the funnel, after it cures remove the wood , peel the alum flashing funnel off and trim the excess resin with the sawzall. Thats how I managed to fill the risers right to the top. Takes a LOT of duct tape to keep the resin from leaking out.

heres a pic of the tools I used the most, chainsaw is a must unless you wanna spend days digging.

 

[mike64]

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I used seacast but heres how I did the transom risers on either side of the outboard cutout.
fit a strip of wood to cover the opening, duct tape in place,
leave a small 2 inch gap at the top and make a 3 sided funnel from alum flashing.
Pour the resin, fill it up and leave a small amount of excess resin in the funnel, after it cures remove the wood , peel the alum flashing funnel off and trim the excess resin with the sawzall. Thats how I managed to fill the risers right to the top. Takes a LOT of duct tape to keep the resin from leaking out.

heres a pic of the tools I used the most, chainsaw is a must unless you wanna spend days digging.

Thanks jonesg! Great info.

 

[donnyskz1]

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When I Did The Upper Sides I Did As Jonesq Did On The Sides And Then Capped It With The Aluminum As I Will Be Doing Finishing Pictures Of The Boat Soon As I Just Put Put The Aluminum Caps On Last Night. When I Was Putting The Screw Through The Aluminum And Into The New Transom I Had To Predrill Into The Transom Other Wise I Could Not Get The Screws To Go In And I Still Broke One Of The Screw Heads. I Am Hoping To Install The Motor On Thursday Evening As I Can Not Do It Today.

I Was Able To Put The Brass Transom Tubes In The Transom And Flare The Other End With A 3/8 All Thread Rod With Nuts And Washers On Both Sides And I Also Used Large Socket That Worked Perfectly On The Flare Because The Way My Socket Set Is Made And I Will Take A Picture Of The Little Tool That Was Used. I Could Have Bought The Special Tool For About $ 40 That They Make To Flare The End But Since I Am A Cheapskape I Figured I Could Make One It Cost Me $ 2.50. I Had Thought About Using The Plastic Inserts And Had Looked At Them But When I Looked At Them And Compared It To The Ones That I Took Out It Seemed Liked It Was Going To Be A Little Short Of What I Needed.

As Far As Doing The Hole For The Outdrive I Know That On Seacast Website That Have Some Kind Of Jig Or Metal Band That They Sell That You Could Order From Them Or If You Are Cheap Like Me You Could Probaly Make Something From Looking At There Picture That They Have.

I Hope That I Dont Get Myself In Trouble But I Would Not Own A Boat That Has A Inboard/outboard System Mainly Because Parts Are More Expensive And When You Have To Take It Apart It Is Difficult To Put Back Together And Everything Has To Be Just Right And Lined Up Correctly Or Things Wont Work Right. With The Outdrive The Transom Has To Be Perfectly Flat Or It Will Not Want To Seal Correctly. Outboard Systems Are Much Easier For Me To Work On.

I Am Hoping By Friday To Have Everything Back Together And Be On The Water On Saturday Providing The Weather Lets Me Do Everything That I Need To Do. My Neighbor Who Has Been Helping Me Alot Has Informed Me That I Owe Him A Fishing Trip

 

[donnyskz1]

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This was sent to me. This is for all fellow boaters. BE CAREFUL ON THE WATER
Subject: Now THAT'S GOTTA Hurt!!!



DON'T DRIVE THAT FISHING BOAT TOO FAST!



So you thought YOU had a bad day at the office. . ..


'That's gonna leave a mark!'

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This is an actual emergency room photo of a fisherman who lost control of
his High Speed Bass Boat in West Virginia .
The warden's believe that he was traveling at a speed of approximately
75 mph at the time of the accident.
He was unable to negotiate a curve in the narrow waterway and
unfortunately for him, upon striking the shoreline, he was ejected from the
boat and landed on an old fence post.
You can probably picture what happened next, but this photograph really
says it all.
The good news is after about 6 months, this man made a full recovery after
suffering a shattered hip, broken leg, several broken ribs, internal injuries
and soft tissue damage. The doctors credited his recovery to the fact that
the post lodged itself so tightly that there was little or no blood loss.
Now, that's got to hurt!

 

[danond]

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Holy CRAP.

I don't care if I'm supposed to learn a lesson from that picture. Excuse me while I go figure out how to replace burned out eyeballs.

 

[peacekeeper6]

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what is the prduct for the stringers? is it the same compound? or a variation?

 

[peacekeeper6]

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do you have any pails left over? i am gonna do this and would buy them off you so you can recoop SOME funds.

 

[donnyskz1]

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Hey Snake I do have 2 pails left over but I dont not know how i would get them to you considering I am in New Orleans and you are in South Carolina.

 

[donnyskz1]

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Here are some more pictures. These are the tools and make shiift tools that I used. no chainsaw was used.

This was my makeshift tool to flare the brass transom tubes

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this is the pipes that I used. One was flattened on one end to become a scraper

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These are the extensions that we kept braking while using the drill. Broke about four 12inch and 2 six inch

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This was the paddle bit used most of the time and went through about 4 of those which included sharpening them quite a few times.

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