Update on Fuel Issues with my 5.0 GXI- J

Moose_25_2500

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Got towed in last week (first time being the towee and not tower) 2008 glastron 225 GT with 5.0 GXI-J with SX-A 1.60 outdrive. Engine only has 125 hours. This is a new boat to me this season and my first EFI boat.

so my boat ran fine all day on the lake and we stopped on the way back to the dock. when I stated up and put it in gear it would not move. So I turned it off and it restarted fine and I put it in neutral and tried reving the engine and it died. So it starts fine but seems to not to be getting enough fuel.

So Here is what I did to diagnose and hopefully solve:
I replaced the fuel filter( gas looked good, no water or debris) checked and cleaned anti-siphon valve, pickup line and tank vent. Then I replaced the fuel regulator. Screen was partially clogged with paint chips.
Started it up and the pump was whining and I had the same result where it would start and then stall after 20 seconds?FYI the pump did not whine last week when I got towed in. So I was stumped and thought for sure it was the pump.
I checked the electrical connection on the low pressure pump and it had no corrosion and had a good connection. The High pressure pump connector did not ?click in? like the low pressure pump and seemed to be loose. I made sure it was on as tight as I could and started it up with the pressure gage connected on the low pressure pump.
Ran great and pump whine went away. ?low pressure was at 14 psi..then I restarted with the gage on the rail (high pressure) and it read a constant 73 psi?.Took it out for a ? hour test drive and ran great. Went back to dock and waited 20 minutes ?then started it up and again ran great for another ? hour.
The only 2 changes that I can think of were:
1) If my high pressure pump was not connected or loose?.would that be the reason why it would start but not run or rev past 20 seconds?
2) Or is it possible that just by hooking up the pressure gage on the low side was enough to stir the blockage in the pump if that was indeed the problem
Finally I know both readings were a little high. Do you think those readings are ok?
Thanks


 

muc

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My guess is #1
I think your gauge is suspect. Very strange for both high and low pumps to have high pressure at the same time.
 

ericga

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Maybe the schrader valve was allowing air in and by using the gauge the valve re-seated properly.

There should be a metal clip on each pump connector that secure them in place. One thing I have seen is the fuel pump relay slowly coming out the socket with the vibration, making a weak contact and causing intermittent whine.
 

Moose_25_2500

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My guess is #1
I think your gauge is suspect. Very strange for both high and low pumps to have high pressure at the same time.
I just bought the gauge from auto zone. It was only $40. I would guess that its not high quality for that price
 

Moose_25_2500

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Maybe the schrader valve was allowing air in and by using the gauge the valve re-seated properly.

There should be a metal clip on each pump connector that secure them in place. One thing I have seen is the fuel pump relay slowly coming out the socket with the vibration, making a weak contact and causing intermittent whine.
I was expecting to see the metal clips on the pump connections as well but, they were not there. The low pressure connection had the plastic connectors on the sides I had to hold to clip it out. The high pressure connector just slid in with no real connector. Weird.

I will take a few pictures this weekend. thanks for the input
 

ericga

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Inspect the female socket and see if a pin is pushed in or bent too much preventing a snug connection.
 

Moose_25_2500

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Update I am so frustrated!!!!!
Thought it was fixed due to the pour connection on the low pressure pump. Went out today and the boat ran great for an hour. My son and nephew both water skied and was on my way back to the dock to pick up my parents and boat died!!! Same problem engine would start but die after 20 secs. No pump whine at all. Messed with the low pump connection and no luck. Checked the regulator and no paint chips at all. Pump was not hot. And tried getting readings from my pressure gage.. High was at 10 psi... Low was about the same but engine would only run for 20 secs so not sure what that means.
Disconnected the high pump and turned the key beeped and pump ran for 3 secs. Then tried it with low pump disconnected and the pump bid not run. Does that tell me the pump is bad???
 

Moose_25_2500

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Inspect the female socket and see if a pin is pushed in or bent too much preventing a snug connection.

I did take pictures of the connections but cannot post till tomorrow they looked ok to me but they are so small really can't tell it there is a problem. Both low and high connections looked the same... How can I test them??? Would suck if I replaced the pump and it was the connector
 
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