V4 rough idle

ReelDrag

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92 Johnson 115 has bad idle, runs very good above idle speed. Sounds like a cylinder is firing intermitently. RPM's go up and down. Carbs were rebuilt at the start of this season. Plugs look all the same, normal color,just a little oily. Just did a compression check, exactly 120 psi in all cylinders cold. Will a leakdown test tell me anything more. If so, how do I do this test?
 

Cricket Too

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Re: V4 rough idle

Does it have the erratic rpm at idle or at all speeds. Who rebuilt the carbs? Maybe they didn't get everything out of them.
 

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Re: V4 rough idle

Erratic rpm at idle only, runs good above idle. I rebuilt the carbs myself with oem kits. I'm sure the carbs are clean. I also replaced all the fuel lines, filters, and primer bulb at the same time.
 

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Re: V4 rough idle

Have you checked to see if you are dropping spark to a cylinder when you come to idle? I would use a timing light and hook it to the plug wires one at a time, and see if they are all firing.
 

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Re: V4 rough idle

Haven't tried the timing light yet. I did notice the rubber boots on the coils are cracked where the powerpack wires connect. Could this cause a voltage leak at idle? I can't understand why I would only loose spark at idle.The thing is, all the plugs look like they're firing correctly.
 

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Re: V4 rough idle

Has someone pulled the t-stats? These motors do not idle well unless they get to operating temp.
 

ReelDrag

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Re: V4 rough idle

All new 2 months ago after sitting for about 4months: T-stats, water pump kit, battery, battery cables, decarb with seafoam, carbs rebuilt with oem kits, fuel lines from tank to motor, fuel filters, spark plugs QL77JC4 gapped at .035. The plugs don't look fouled, runs good off idle to 5500 rpm. I've got the Boyensen reeds in it for about 2yrs now. If I had a bad reed I would think the plugs would show it. Could I have a bad coil that is only weak at idle? Powerpack??
 

jim dozier

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Re: V4 rough idle

Does this engine have adjustable idle mixture? If so maybe you just need to fine tune the idle mixture. Maybe one of your cylinders is a tad lean or rich compared to the others.
 

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Re: V4 rough idle

I was thinking it may be a bad timer base. Don't know how to test that. Would it still run good at wot with a bad trigger? Something I forgot to mention, my voltmeter stopped working and I replaced it, but it's only showing 11.5 volts with the engine off, checked it with a digital meter, 11.5 volts. The battery checks at 12.8 volts. Would a bad key switch cause my problem? I not very good with electrical problems so any help would be appreciated.
 

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Re: V4 rough idle

I have been having intermittent spark problems with my '89 150 XP V-6. Just last night, I had a heck of a time getting it to start. Took a lot of cranking until it even fired (and it is getting plenty of fuel). When it finally did start, it was idling rough. I began pulling plug wires, one at a time, to figure out if all cylinders were sparking. If you hold your plug wire near the tip of the plug, you'll get a nice, bright arc that will jump from within the plug wire cap to the plug. I found that 2 of my 6 cylinders had no spark whatsoever. I shut it down, then started it back up (after it's been started, it fires back up very easily). I checked, and those 2 cylinders still had no spark. Then I shut it down, swapped plug wires and re-started, but still the same 2 cylinders had nothing (wires okay). Then I swapped coils, between one of these cylinders and another one that had good spark. When I re-started it, both cylinders that I just swapped coils on had good spark. Looks like a ground problem. I then removed both of these coils, cleaned up the contact area (one of the bolts has a metal contact on it to ground to the block). Now all 6 have good spark. May not be your problem, and I'm no mechanic, but something easy to try before spending a bunch of your beer money chasing this problem! Good luck.
 

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Re: V4 rough idle

Mine will run on any one cylinder. You can determine which cylinder is problem by just running it on one at a time till you find the one that wont run then go from there.
 

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Re: V4 rough idle

I would like to get back to one of my original observations. Why do all of the plugs look normal, just a little oily. By reading the plugs it appears to be running perfect.
 

ReelDrag

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Re: V4 rough idle

4 coils check good. Anyone have an idea where to go from there?
 

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Re: V4 rough idle

did you ever do the timing light thing on each wire at idle? That seemed like a good idea to me. Coils may be good, but maybe 1 coil is triggered only intermittently at idle.
 

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Didn't try the timing light yet. Kind of hard to see the light in the bright sun. Can't do it after dark, the neighbors would have a fit.
 

BF

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Re: V4 rough idle

aim the light at yourself, or anywhere shadowy (e.g. in bilge) should be no problem seeing.... should flash regularly not intermittent.
 

ReelDrag

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Re: V4 rough idle

I'll give it a try. Can't understand why the plugs all look normal.
 
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