Vaping

[KJM]

Not sure if this topic is allowed by the Moderators, but are there any vapors out there? I recently started to use them and I really like them. I used to smoke but quit 20 yrs ago, however I always missed having a smoke. Now I feel like I can smoke without the bad health effects. Any thoughts?

 

[racerone]

There is no such thing as ---" healthy " ----smoking as far as I know.

 

[FLATHEAD]

Sucking chemicals into your lungs is not the best idea.

 

[DeepCMark58A]

I would smoke before vaping

 

[Scott Danforth]

Google popcorn lung

 

[ezbtr]

I quit cold turkey 4 yrs ago ish, 1.5 packs a day 28 ish years, tried a dozen times, pills, gum, etc, cold turkey is the best, air is the only thing that belongs in lungs although when I smell my neighbors smoking 3-4 houses down, I still like the smell

 

[KJM]

Yeah when I quit it was cold turkey, my wife started chewing nicotine gum and 20 yrs later she is still chewing!

 

[KJM]

Google popcorn lung

Scott, the ingredient that caused popcorn lung is no longer used.

 

[redneck joe]

Scott, the ingredient that caused popcorn lung is no longer used.

legally. like many things there is still lots of home brewing happening and honestly popcorn lung hasn't been around long enough to really know much about it.

putting anything into lungs not air is bad. maybe vaping is not as bad, but it is not air. wife never quit smoking and she now vapes. I'd rather have her do that i think but rather not vape either.

I smoked 2+ packs for 35 years so no holier than others thing here.

 

[Scott Danforth]

Dad died from complications caused by his smoking. Enough for me to caution anyone in luding you @redneck joe and AC

 

[KJM]

legally. like many things there is still lots of home brewing happening and honestly popcorn lung hasn't been around long enough to really know much about it.

putting anything into lungs not air is bad. maybe vaping is not as bad, but it is not air. wife never quit smoking and she now vapes. I'd rather have her do that i think but rather not vape either.

I smoked 2+ packs for 35 years so no holier than others thing here.

You wife is definitely better off vaping. The "research" I've done says its relatively low risk, but there are lots of opinions. In the lab where I work we do a lot of lung biopsies and I've seen ones from smokers that literally came out black.

 

[southkogs]

Dad died from complications caused by his smoking. Enough for me to caution anyone in luding you @redneck joe and AC

Ditto here: Dad quit cold turkey the day they told him he had cancer. He'd smoked a pipe for 40 years. I've never looked at the chemistry in vaping, but I agree: whatever it is isn't supposed to be breathed.

 

[909]

The issue with vaping is that it's too convenient.

You don't have to go outside, and commit to an entire cigarette. One pull is enough.

Out of boredom you might just vape more often, indoors, because it so easy.

 

[redneck joe]

The issue with vaping is that it's too convenient.

You don't have to go outside, and commit to an entire cigarette. One pull is enough.

Out of boredom you might just vape more often, indoors, because it so easy.

agree and my ask of my wife is to not vape in my car or in the house. I win 90% of the time because i know when to shut up the 10% of the time that a husband should.

 

[redneck joe]

Ditto here: Dad quit cold turkey the day they told him he had cancer. He'd smoked a pipe for 40 years. I've never looked at the chemistry in vaping, but I agree: whatever it is isn't supposed to be breathed.

My dad smoked for ~20 years, 3 packs a day and he turns 80 this year with a 50/50 chance of outliving me.

My FIL smoked for two years during college and he died of lung cancer eight years ago at 74. His profession was teacher.

Won't argue the effects of smoking but not a 100% direct line.

 

[southkogs]

Won't argue the effects of smoking but not a 100% direct line.

I understand that in general, but for Dad it was. Oncologist laid it straight out to him: the pipe is trying to kill you.

He wound up surviving the cancer itself. Oncologist told him that he was one of a handful of people in that region of the country to managed to survive it (I think it was miraculous quite honestly); and he wasn't expected to make it. 12 years later it was the myelodysplastic syndrome (MDS) that took him (it's basically a bone marrow cancer that is a potential result of aggressive cancer treatments).

Just like 60MPH head-on collisions aren't a direct line to blunt force trauma death; I agree, smoking isn't a direct line to cancer death.

 

[KJM]

The issue with vaping is that it's too convenient.

You don't have to go outside, and commit to an entire cigarette. One pull is enough.

Out of boredom you might just vape more often, indoors, because it so easy.

Well that is true, but IF it isn't doing any real harm then why would that be a problem. I vape indoors and she says she can't even smell it. I have a sister in law who vapes in her pickup truck when her boyfriend is driving and he doesn't even know! But he is not the sharpest tool in the shed.......

 

[WIMUSKY]

I guess if you quit smoking 20yrs ago, why start up with something that's also habitual? As mentioned, what are the chemicals they're using... I wouldn't do it.

Can vaping damage your lungs? What we do (and don't) know - Harvard Health

Vaping can cause significant health risks, including lung disease. Learn the dangers of vaping and nicotine....

www.health.harvard.edu

 

[KJM]

I guess if you quit smoking 20yrs ago, why start up with something that's also habitual? As mentioned, what are the chemicals they're using... I wouldn't do it.

Can vaping damage your lungs? What we do (and don't) know - Harvard Health

Vaping can cause significant health risks, including lung disease. Learn the dangers of vaping and nicotine....

www.health.harvard.edu

Yeah I know, probably a dumb idea, but from what I read it seems pretty harmless and when I smoked, I REALLY liked it, so I figured I can "smoke" now without the health problems, specifically cancer. I might come to regret it.