very urgent need of help with the removal of my cobra sx outdrive

jordanfuss

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ive undone the 6 nuts holding the outdrive on, along with the shifting cable cable and the trim cylinders but the drive will not come off. ive built a rig to pull it off and its pulling the boat off the trailer!!!! any help would be very appreciated!!!

heres some pictures so you can see the extreme measures ive taken
http://imgur.com/a/iVLlv:confused:
 

Soreal53

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Re: very urgent need of help with the removal of my cobra sx outdrive

Wow!!! I just took my exact drive off today. I had the same problem, I took the 6 bolts, cable and the 2 hydraulics off. Mine also did not want to come off but I shook it side to side until I finally had a gap, then I beat the sides with a rubber impact hammer and it finally broke loose. Then pulled out pretty easy...
Try and put a flat bar in between gap and pry off.
If that doesn't work, not sure why it won't come off cause your pics are the exact thing I did.
 

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Re: very urgent need of help with the removal of my cobra sx outdrive

Holy crap, It looks like the input shaft is seized in the engine coupler, or gimbal bearing. But I'm sure you knew this. don't know if you can get a saws-all down in next to the bell housing to cut the input shaft. Would have to replace a new input shaft and pull the engine to replace engine coupler. And if it's seized in the gimbal bearing once is cut and the engine is out. by keeping your rig set up with pressure on it, then I would think you could use a air hammer to help push the gimbal and drive out. That bearing is not coming out buy a com-along. It needs a shocking force.
 

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Re: very urgent need of help with the removal of my cobra sx outdrive

One thing I forgot was when I took mine off I had the boat in forward gear all the way down. But not sure if that matters....
Good luck
 

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Re: very urgent need of help with the removal of my cobra sx outdrive

One thing I forgot was when I took mine off I had the boat in forward gear all the way down. But not sure if that matters....
Good luck
It doesn't.
 

jordanfuss

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Re: very urgent need of help with the removal of my cobra sx outdrive

Well thanks for the input guys! I was hoping I was actually doing something wrong-.-

My plan- reinforce, reinforce, reinforce. And also incorporate a hydraulic ram using my hull as a base so my boat wont keep sliding off the trailer
I hope this thing comes off or else I'm gonna have quite a "peep" hole in the transom

Ill let you know what happens!
 

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Re: very urgent need of help with the removal of my cobra sx outdrive

Well thanks for the input guys! I was hoping I was actually doing something wrong-.-

My plan- reinforce, reinforce, reinforce. And also incorporate a hydraulic ram using my hull as a base so my boat wont keep sliding off the trailer
I hope this thing comes off or else I'm gonna have quite a "peep" hole in the transom

Ill let you know what happens!

Ayuh,... I don't do Volvos, but can ya pull the Motor, 'n then beat the drive off, from inside,..??
 

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Re: very urgent need of help with the removal of my cobra sx outdrive

If the drive shaft is stuck in the coupler, pulling the engine will have the same issue.
 

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Re: very urgent need of help with the removal of my cobra sx outdrive

If the drive shaft is stuck in the coupler, pulling the engine will have the same issue.

Ayuh,... On a Merc, ya might reach the 3 coupler bolts,... donno 'bout the Volvo...
 

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Re: very urgent need of help with the removal of my cobra sx outdrive

Actually, I don't know either if that would be possible.
 

jordanfuss

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Re: very urgent need of help with the removal of my cobra sx outdrive

Actually, I don't know either if that would be possible.

your correct. the engine can not be taken out first. the shaft going into the flywheel housing from the outdrive is a fixed shaft with a pilot bearing that allows no play there for the only possible way to remove the engine first is to slide it off the shaft horizontal and forward requiring the removal of the gas tank and some of the floor being cut out, tomorrow ive got another plan to get the outdrive off and will share the results on this thread, thanks for the input mate!
 

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Re: very urgent need of help with the removal of my cobra sx outdrive

well guys ive gotten the drive off finally! what happened is that the shaft was seized inside the pilot bearing in the transom.

may my best friend never-seize come in handy when its time for reinstallation!
 

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Re: very urgent need of help with the removal of my cobra sx outdrive

If the drive is removed every year like its supposed to be, you will never have a problem. All you need is a light layer of grease.
 

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Re: very urgent need of help with the removal of my cobra sx outdrive

Judging by the rust on the trailer and palm trees in the pictures. I assume this is a saltwater boat. If that is the case you need to pull the drive every year to check things over and make sure you have no water intrusion past the bellows. If this is a new to you boat, I would also replace the gimbal bearing, bellows and all o rings and seals. Probably way overdue if the drive was seized to the gimbal bearing.
 

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Re: very urgent need of help with the removal of my cobra sx outdrive

Judging by the rust on the trailer and palm trees in the pictures. I assume this is a saltwater boat. If that is the case you need to pull the drive every year to check things over and make sure you have no water intrusion past the bellows. If this is a new to you boat, I would also replace the gimbal bearing, bellows and all o rings and seals. Probably way overdue if the drive was seized to the gimbal bearing.

thanks thats very helpful, i planned on just putting a bit of never-seize on the shaft and of course with the abuse from the salt water, im going to ensure i do maintenance at least once a year, this is my first boat and i just got it as a 17th birthday project, its a 1997 regal 2100 4.3 GL im doing a complete rebuild engine and all the interior exterior and adding any protection against the elements and refinish on the boat due to the fact that the person ive gotten the boat from has NEVER serviced and im amazed at the shape of the bellows, im siked to get it going if you wanna check out my progress check out this album ive composed!


http://imgur.com/a/LwMpF
 

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Re: very urgent need of help with the removal of my cobra sx outdrive

thanks thats very helpful, i planned on just putting a bit of never-seize on the shaft and of course with the abuse from the salt water, im going to ensure i do maintenance at least once a year, this is my first boat and i just got it as a 17th birthday project, its a 1997 regal 2100 4.3 GL im doing a complete rebuild engine and all the interior exterior and adding any protection against the elements and refinish on the boat due to the fact that the person ive gotten the boat from has NEVER serviced and im amazed at the shape of the bellows, im siked to get it going if you wanna check out my progress check out this album ive composed!


http://imgur.com/a/LwMpF

Ayuh,.... Again,... Use Grease, rather than Never-seize...
 

jordanfuss

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Re: very urgent need of help with the removal of my cobra sx outdrive

Ayuh,.... Again,... Use Grease, rather than Never-seize...

if you find that better i sure will, this is still a learning experience for me
 

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Re: very urgent need of help with the removal of my cobra sx outdrive

thanks thats very helpful, i planned on just putting a bit of never-seize on the shaft and of course with the abuse from the salt water, im going to ensure i do maintenance at least once a year, this is my first boat and i just got it as a 17th birthday project, its a 1997 regal 2100 4.3 GL im doing a complete rebuild engine and all the interior exterior and adding any protection against the elements and refinish on the boat due to the fact that the person ive gotten the boat from has NEVER serviced and im amazed at the shape of the bellows, im siked to get it going if you wanna check out my progress check out this album ive composed!


http://imgur.com/a/LwMpF

Well, I just seized my SX outdrive on my 1999 Regal LSR2100 5.0GL. I did not follow the proper annual maintenance instructions for the outdrive, I guess being a 1st time boat owner I left the outdrive alone while just taking care of the engine every year.
 

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Re: very urgent need of help with the removal of my cobra sx outdrive

I would not use never-seize in a salt water environment, the best water proof grease I have seen is OMC/Bombardier triple guard grease. I leave my boat in salt water 6 months out of the year and I always pull the drive once a year and it just slides right off. That boat is used in salt but not left in salt. If you do that and grease the shaft you will not have a problem. IMHO you should be doing that to check the bellows for water and gear oil anyway. Doing this consistently has helped me avoid major problems.

Here is another suggestion, even if you do not need to take apart the upper and lower units (like if you had a bad water tube seal) every few years in salt water or even in fresh which can be corrosive, back out the bolts that hold the upper and lower together, and coat them with OMC Gasket Sealer. This keeps the salt water out of the threads and keeps them from seizing. My OMC Cobra has 4 or 5 bolts that hold the upper and lower together, the Volvo is probably similar.

And BTW, this is not just an I/O problem, lower units get seized on outboards for the same reason, they don't get removed often enough and sealer is not used on the bolts.
 

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Re: very urgent need of help with the removal of my cobra sx outdrive

Another dead thread brought back to life for no reason :facepalm: The OP of this thread hasn't been back since April,.
 
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