water over transom prob

crabby captain john

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Re: water over transom prob

ALWAYS anchor off the bow. The waves should be cut by the bow and waves roll under the boat. Having a tight anchor rode off the stern holds the stern low in the water so waves can roll on in. Coming in off lake Erie in 6 - 8'ers I saw a 24' boat riding easy in the swell as I was riding a wave until it broke then scurried up the next. My 1st mate saw the 1st wave roll over his stern I saw the 2nd flood the boat and bring the bow up knowing the stern would not recover. I was on the radio with the CG before the crew of 3 was in the water without life jackets. I looked at my mate and he nodded - we could not leave them with the CG 45 - 60 minutes out. Gave our numbers and 4 waves later I was able to turn the boat -- Denny was young and very strong. Could not bring them on the swim platform as the waves were pushing the boat around at slow speed, he pulled each one over a gunnel. We had water coming over both gunnels and over the cabin - windshield - roof and dumping with the rest. headed toward Canada-- took 15 minutes to find a wave we could turn in. Notified the CG we had them aboard-- they stayed about 15 minutes away until we were 4 miles offshore in 5'ers as we could not transfer them in that water. Coasties met us at our dock. Even though the water was warm they would not have survived hours or more without flotation. It only took TWO waves to sink the boat, we were in front of them. If my mate had not seen the 1st wave go over their stern we never would have missed them. Now I never back down on any fish unless the water is relatively flat. I'll never own a boat with an open motor well either- self bailing, 2 pumps on different batteries- unsinkable,, the ONLY way to go.


Don't anchor with the stern facing the oncoming waves. ???
 

Home Cookin'

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crabby--good lesson, and good seamanship on your part. I watched a stern-anchored 24' sink in about 30 seconds on a calm day after two big wakes hit the stern.

Jo, I think people are merely equating more HP with more weight--not very precise. But if the legal 50 and illegal 60 weigh the same, as you point out, the problem is elsewhere--probably waterlogged.

glenn, a 1' wave against 6" freeboard won't necessarily sink the boat, because (ahem) boats float. I've watched 3' wakes hit my transom with 1' clearance from water to transom at the motor cut-out, no problem. Different boats recover differently; you have to know the boat. (But if you're stern anchored, you don't float)
 

crabby captain john

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Home Cookin -- if the weight of the motor is not a problem weight distribution should not be his problem. Adding weight whether people or equipment like batteries in the bow will not fix it, maybe a very temporary adjustment that will fail at the wrong time. The boat could have held water in the stern for some time and it was absorbed into the foam. The boat is not sea worthy in the current condition. It should be shore based until the problem is identified and remediated.

crabby--good lesson, and good seamanship on your part. I watched a stern-anchored 24' sink in about 30 seconds on a calm day after two big wakes hit the stern.

Jo, I think people are merely equating more HP with more weight--not very precise. But if the legal 50 and illegal 60 weigh the same, as you point out, the problem is elsewhere--probably waterlogged.

glenn, a 1' wave against 6" freeboard won't necessarily sink the boat, because (ahem) boats float. I've watched 3' wakes hit my transom with 1' clearance from water to transom at the motor cut-out, no problem. Different boats recover differently; you have to know the boat. (But if you're stern anchored, you don't float)
 

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Personally, I suspect that the only problem with your boat is that it is not suited for the water you are taking it into.... I suggest going boat shopping
 

crabby captain john

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I agree OP should consider boat shopping. However, I believe not only his boat is not suited for the water he is taking it to as you suggest but it may not be suited for any water than a small pond where he is the only vessel.


Personally, I suspect that the only problem with your boat is that it is not suited for the water you are taking it into.... I suggest going boat shopping
 

fishfeatures

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I agree OP should consider boat shopping. However, I believe not only his boat is not suited for the water he is taking it to as you suggest but it may not be suited for any water than a small pond where he is the only vessel.

OP is boat shopping after taking on board the comments following on from the original post... boat is only a runabout as stated at the top and always used on the river where there were never ever any issues with water intrusion except occasionally when in the bay (which is rare)

I consider myself a responsible boater and know that my craft is well suited to its usual haunts, and I don't appreciate the only vessel comment "crabby"
 

NYBo

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I consider myself a responsible boater and know that my craft is well suited to its usual haunts, and I don't appreciate the only vessel comment "crabby"
I think his point is that there needs to be calm water, i.e. no wakes from other boats, for your boat to be truly safe. No slam on your abilities.
 

Home Cookin'

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"in choppy water it can sometimes fill quite quickly if I'm stationary"

It was this that led us to conclude that the boat was not safe in any waters
 
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rbh

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My 2C, as other guys have said move as much weight to the front as possible, and find a lighter engine.
Those little runabouts for the most part always sat low at the stern.
 
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