What if....?

HT32BSX115

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Re: What if....?

Hmm,

I think the dude has probably watched MATRIX a few too many times!! :rolleyes:
 

JB

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Re: What if....?

No way. I was here long before computers.
 

robcarync

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Unless it was a computer program that made you think there were no computers...hmmmmm....
 

bruceb58

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Or if it was a dream..or a dream inside of a dream...

Sorry...just saw Inception!
 

jonesg

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The trouble is computation cannot cause consciousness to arise because computation, as the name implies, runs on pre-programmed axioms.

Godels incompletness theorum and Turing's halting problem proved that consciousness canot be created from an axiomatic system.
It cannot become self aware.
Alan Turing proved it before he even built the first computer.

I read Roger Penrose's "The Emporer's New Mind" and he did a slam dunk on the AI community.

HUmans can get around Godels theorum simply because we have intuition, a computer doesn't have sentience..

Think of it simply,
if you put a video camera in front of a mirror, is it self aware?
Thats how silly the idea is.
 

kenmyfam

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Re: What if....?

The trouble is computation cannot cause consciousness to arise because computation, as the name implies, runs on pre-programmed axioms.

Godels incompletness theorum and Turing's halting problem proved that consciousness canot be created from an axiomatic system.
It cannot become self aware.
Alan Turing proved it before he even built the first computer.

I read Roger Penrose's "The Emporer's New Mind" and he did a slam dunk on the AI community.

HUmans can get around Godels theorum simply because we have intuition, a computer doesn't have sentience..

Think of it simply,
if you put a video camera in front of a mirror, is it self aware?
Thats how silly the idea is.

Wow, pass me another beer !!!!:D:D
 

roncoop75

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Re: What if....?

Hmm,

I think the dude has probably watched MATRIX a few too many times!! :rolleyes:

But if it's true, how would we know. And as in the Matrix, would we even care or want to know.

It's all about choice. /Neo
 

oops!

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Re: What if....?

lol....the concept was introduced on douglas adams "hitchikers giude to the galaxy"
i beleive the computers name was deep thought.

and the answer is 62.
 

DayCruiser

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Re: What if....?

Just think, our brains are computers. Most every piece of machinery has a computer in it. Many of us live to play on computers. We use computers at work. Our creator must be a computer genius to say the least.
 

kenmyfam

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Going to need something stronger than beer now !!!!:D:D
 
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