Why can't boat manufactures get with the times??

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Re: Why can't boat manufactures get with the times??

Back when the big three went to compouter controlled vehicles the hot rodders and car guys cried about it being the end of modifying factory cars. Guess what ..it didn't. Thats what the majority of you guys sound like. If you all are ok with being stuck with old tech and paying top dollar for it then so be it.

I actually enjoy people like you who are willing to pay MORE than top dollar just to have the latest tech that does the same thing or even less than the old tech.

Then in 3 or 4 years when the newest latest and greatest comes out again and you just HAVE to have it (again paying MORE than top dollar), I can shop around and buy your previous "latest" tech from you like new for literally pennies on the dollar! ;)
 

NSBCraig

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Re: Why can't boat manufactures get with the times??

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While your talking about using different materials to make up your composite boat-

Nortech uses plywood in their transoms for a reason. They could use any material since their customers have no issue with price, but they use ply.
 

JustJason

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Wood in a boat isn't a bad thing if it's encapsulated correctly. It actually has some very benificial properties. It's when somebody drags out a 73 bayliner with a rotted transom, floors, and stringers is when wood in a boat gets a bad rap.
 

haulnazz15

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It is still an issue when excapsulated in most boats, imo. It is impossible to ensure that every screw, every bolt, every thru-hull fitting stays 100% sealed from water. You can go to extreme lengths like encapsulating the floor in fiberglass, and putting sealant on every screw before it gets threaded in, etc. Eventually things will vibrate loose and let water in which will cause rot.

I think smokeonthewater hit the nail on the head that maybe most people are only concerned about colors and gauges/chrome when they buy a boat. The don't care what the stringers are made of, or whether the hull was made with a chopper gun. Maybe I'm in the minority on that. But for as easy as it was for me to swap out the wood in my transom for the composite unit, I can't see it being any more difficult for a boat manufacturer to do so during the manufacturing process since they have full access to everything.

As to the comment about stress cracks in the gel coat due to composites not flexing . . . that sounds contradictory in and of itself! Cracks are normally caused by flexing of a material that wasn't supposed to flex. Thinks about the stress fractures that occur on the outside door handles of most C3 Corvettes. It's because the pressure of using the door latch flexed the thin fiberglass of the door panel.

I don't know the reasoning behind Nortec's decision to use/not use wood. If you know why, let us know. Chris Craft/Cobalt DOESN'T use wood, so who is right and who is wrong concerning the better material? It's hard to say without knowing the facts, but it just stands to reason that a boat without wood should have better structural integrity over 30+yrs.
 

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I actually enjoy people like you who are willing to pay MORE than top dollar just to have the latest tech that does the same thing or even less than the old tech.

Then in 3 or 4 years when the newest latest and greatest comes out again and you just HAVE to have it (again paying MORE than top dollar), I can shop around and buy your previous "latest" tech from you like new for literally pennies on the dollar! ;)

you don't know me. I was just posing a question. Thats is all. my trucks a 97, my boats a 99, my race cars have always been older (with new tech mixed in. mostly bought on e-bay) so try again with the stupid generalization. I just thought it was funny that people are still playing with points style ignitions. Thats how this whole cluster started!!
 

erikpn

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+1. As a salt-water boater who commonly encounters snotty conditions, and occasionally ventures out of sight of land, I want the electro-mechanical components of my boat to be 10 years behind the times.

Let the automotive manufacturers and their customers work out the kinks... their lives aren't usually endangered when the motor quits.

My .02

you mean efi and all in cars? the kinks were worked out 20 years ago, cars now regularly run up 200,000 miles are far more reliable than they have ever been with "old school" tech.
 

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shamus o'toole said:
you don't know me.

shamus o'toole said:
If you all are ok with being stuck with old tech and paying top dollar for it then so be it.

I figured that I must have known you from somewhere. Sure seems like from your posts that you think you know me and everyone else that owns a boat!
 

JoLin

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you mean efi and all in cars? the kinks were worked out 20 years ago, cars now regularly run up 200,000 miles are far more reliable than they have ever been with "old school" tech.

No, that wasn't my point. My 1999 boat has EFI (throttle-body) and electronic ignition... both of which had been in production for years before they went into my boat. That's my point.

Hypothetically, if EFI and electronic ignition were brand new technologies introduced in 2010, I'd want my brand-new 2010 boat to have points and a carb. 10 years from now I'll be quite happy to have this year's technology in it.

Understand?
 

Shamus O'toole

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No, that wasn't my point. My 1999 boat has EFI (throttle-body) and electronic ignition... both of which had been in production for years before they went into my boat. That's my point.

Hypothetically, if EFI and electronic ignition were brand new technologies introduced in 2010, I'd want my brand-new 2010 boat to have points and a carb. 10 years from now I'll be quite happy to have this year's technology in it.

Understand?

makes sense.
 

seabob4

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My girl, '87 Maxima SE, runs like a top at 168,000...going on 24 years old...VG30E motor, Nissan 5-speed that shifts like butter...
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sleek2004

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all i have to say is if you dodnt like it dont buy it. if u want a boat that is better make it better. nuff said move on. lol cuz the way this is goin it can only end in tears!:D
 
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