Will switching out motors affect the cost of the boat?

[FPJKCMO]

A person is interested in the motor that I have currently on my boat and not the boat itself. The current motor is a 1957 Johnson 35 HP golden javlin that I could switch out with a Johnson 10HP motor (nothing special). My question is when I go to sell the boat, 1956 Larson Falls Flyer, is it going to hurt the value of the boat?

Some of you may remember me from September when I was mad at my husband for spending $800. On the motor. He decided to get a WW11 1942 Willy that he wants to restore so the boat is going. Just don't know if I should sell the motor separate. Once this is decided I will place an advertisement on I boats. I hope this question is not in violation of policy. Thanks!

 

[64osby]

I would think you would maximize your $$$ by selling the motor separately. JMO

 

[GA_Boater]

I would only sell the boat and motor together. If you sell the motor and put another motor (under powered, at that) on, you still have to sell the boat.

 

[fhhuber]

You're getting into the range of classic/vintage boat hull + age appropriate classic/vintage motor...

That's probably why the guy wants the motor... to go with another classic/vintage hull.

If they had originally been bought together from the dealer (with the papers to show it) I'd be 100% sure they needed to stay together.
Hard to say since it sounds like they only managed to be put together recently.

 

[jbcurt00]

A Falls Flyer w a Golden Javelin 35hp?

Ya cant post that info w out pix, thats just wrong, all wrong

That said, it all depends on condition. A perfect running and cosmetically great Javelin wouldnt add much value to a combo w a Falls Flyer that is a project boat. You'd do much better to split them.

An average condition Javelin motor on a 1956 boat thats not quite water ready, could use some work but isnt trashed would be a good combo to buy as a set, regardless if the motor can be proven to be original, as its basically period correct.

If you have paperwork proving the Javelin came w the boat, by all means, keep them together.

I doubt an 800 motor is beat to death and the boat isnt likely perfect either. If it is, and the motors well worn, sell them seperately.

Please remember that the iboats boat ads are accessed from the link at the top right of the forum pages. There is no place on the forum to list motors, boats, parts or trailers.

Now, about those pix

 

[FPJKCMO]

Okay, the boat is in above average condition, but not perfect. The motor runs, as it was serviced and all parts such as gear, seals and such were replaced this past September. If my google foo is correct Larson didn't sell the boats with motors, it was up to the owner to supply the motor (could be wrong and won't be the last time). I didn't want to send a picture because I didn't want to disrespect the policies of this board. Being that I am looking to sell and all. If it is okay, I will attach a picture.

 

[FPJKCMO]

Oh, and I have titles for both if that matters.

 

[fhhuber]

Titles matters a lot.

There may still be some states where its not hard to deal with an old untitled hull or motor, but its getting harder and harder.

Texas a boat without a title is generally scrap.
Its VERY hard to get a title for an old 12 to 4 ft jon boat that never needed one because it had no motor and now you want to put a motor on it.
They don't even like it when you get a new cheap inflatable raft and want to title it to put on a trolling motor. But the law requires it...
(no it doesn't make much sense...)

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The boat maker may not have paired the boat and motor... but dealers would.
Kind of like buying an Alumacraft jon boat now and adding a modern 4-stroke. Alumacraft didn't pair them... but they tend to get sold together.

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But really the issue here is... you have a hull and a motor that come from essentially the same time about 60 years ago...

Paired and decent shape that combo will attract some buyers.
It won't matter at all to others.

 

[FPJKCMO]

No Title

A couple of pics

 

[GA_Boater]

Do not sell the boat, motor or trailer separate. Whether the boat, motor and trailer were sold as a package way back when or not, they go together now.

 

[jbcurt00]

Yep ^^^

 

[64osby]

After seeing it, I will change my answer to keep it as a package. Looks great.

 

[fhhuber]

Yep.. that has classic cool factor as a package. Very pretty.

 

[SkaterRace]

With that set up I would sell it as a whole package to get the most out of it.

 

[flyingscott]

That boat and motor is worth something falls flyers are pretty collectible to the right people. http://www.hulu.com/watch/524472#i0,p0,d0 watch this before you sell it, it is a whole auction on falls flyers. Yours may not get this much money but not chump change. These are all restored boats by a famous collector so that adds value to these.

 

[FPJKCMO]

Thank you for the link. I'm trying to post an ad on this sight, just having a few technical issues. The Johnson 10 hp is actually a 1962 Sea Horse 40hp. It showed 10 because at our lake you can't operate anything over 10. But I don't have a title for it anyways so I'll keep the Javelin on the Larson. Again thanks for everyone's help!
Dawn

 

[oldboat1]

Yeah -- ran into some wheeler dealers when I sold a couple of '57 Johnson electrics last Fall. The golden Javelin would probably be even worse, as that appears to be a motor of choice in the wannabe collector world. I usually don't much care as long as they don't want to paint it camo and slap a picture of a duck on it, although can't prevent that either (maybe keep the price up, and don't sell to somebody who shows up eating a handful of mashed potatoes.)

I would sure keep it together unless you have an outlandish cash offer for one or the other -- whether or not he's munching on a handful of mashed potatoes.

(edit. btw, can be a similar issue potentially with the trailer and hull)