Windows Mobile on a Cellphone

mscher

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Since I'm losing my mind, I need a better way to keep track of appointments, birthdays, tire sizes, etc. Can't remember anything.

In the past I have used different "pocket PC's", that can run small apps, that synch up with the tasks, calendar, contacts and email, in Microsoft Outlook, on the desktop PC. The best part was the reminders (e.g. anniversery in 48 hours ;) )

The devices generally worked pretty good, but the was always the hassle of carrying, synchronizing and keeping charged, yet another device. This is in addition to carrying a cell phone. The batteries would only last a day or two.

Now that many cell phones have Windows mobile, and some of the prices have come down, I'm wondering if it's now time to get back in.

Just wondering if anyone uses a phone with WM, whether it works regularily, and if it is worth the money.
 

pmat1

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Re: Windows Mobile on a Cellphone

i have a windows mobile phone, and love it!
i dont use it for the pda part of it, i pretty much have one for the qwerty keyboard and the internet tethering
 

i386

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Re: Windows Mobile on a Cellphone

I've had a Palm Treo which ran Windows Mobile. I liked it because I could sync it with my Outlook calendar. Now I have a Blackberry and I like it 100x better than the Treo. Not only does it sync with Outlook, I get my email in real time. It also works with my Gmail email and calendar. It's nice that my wife has on too. When she enters an event into her Blackberry calendar she can "invite" me which puts the event in my calendar (and vice versa).
 

CheapboatKev

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Re: Windows Mobile on a Cellphone

I had a Windows OS phone..
It was good, not great..Recently updated to the Palm Pre..
Much better, gets email in realtime, very strong calender functions and best of all, when I pull up my contacts, and they have an address entry, all I have to do is tap the address to open google maps and get instant directions.
The GPS feature is amazing as well.
 

gonefishie

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Re: Windows Mobile on a Cellphone

I have a blackberry curve. I think verizon have a buy one get one free deal.
 

kmk_7110

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Re: Windows Mobile on a Cellphone

iPhone for me.

ditto, its awesome all the apps for different things... some of the apps are much more defined versions of the other options that come with the phone and now with mms there is nothing ur losing
 

insanity

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I have used an Iphone for the last 2 years, It is just as good as any WM phone IMO. It can get any email as long as you have the incoming server and out going server (just like outlook) and can do multiple email addresses (not sure if WM dose that). It has a very nice and easy to use calendar with plenty of alerts. More apps than you can shake a stick at and is constantly being updated with more features. Recently apple released a tilted screen QWERTY key board with larger keys that is easier to use. Soon you will be able to connect your computer to it and get internet off of it.

The only down side it it is ATT only... In upstate NY I have to all but hang out of my barracks room window to talk.

I'm a MAC guy and only keep windows around for programs that only run on it. It is easy to learn, after a month you will look at windows like WTH was I thinking.
 

insanity

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Ya but who knows when they will launch it.
 

lowkee

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Re: Windows Mobile on a Cellphone

I have owned a Windows Mobile phone for about 3 years and have enjoyed having it for the few features it does have, but am now going with an Android phone for a number of reasons.

1st the reasons Windows Mobile is nice:

- You can browse the web when dearly needed (price matching while at a store is a great use).
- Calculator (seriously, likely my most used app)
- Mail sync with an Exchance server while out and about
- Has most features of Office built in
- Uses Outlook contacts for contacts list, so what you change on your Pc, changes on the phone (and vise versa)
- Tons of applications out there (some are even useful)
- Plenty of GPS software out there, so you can use it as your main GPS, as well.

The reason I'm leaving Windows Mobile:

- Casual browsing is stupidly annoying. It's a 3" screen, remember.
- Mail sync over the network only works with Exchange server. I can't stress this one enough. Non-exchange driven mail means you have to connect via bluetooth or USB in order to sync your mail.
- 99% of the software which makes this useful is $20+, which means the phone will be the cheapest part of actually using it.
- Microsoft wants to keep the 'Windows' look so badly, they prevent app makers from making truly innovative apps. All of the apps which make the mobile phone, like the iphone, useful aren't possible on the Windows Mobile phone because the GUI is locked down.
- After buying tons of apps and trying out literally nearly 100 others over the years, the only apps I end up using are the utility apps which make the phone remotely usable (the interface is atrocious), calculator, Uno (the game), and iGuidance (GPS software). I don't even use it for mail anymore, since I don't have an exchange server and connecting the USB is a pain, since when I'm not using it, I'd rather it be charging, and moving it between PC and charger and my pocket, though seemingly simple, will wear on you and you will end up never syncing it and, subsequently, using just as a phone, killing the point of the brick altogether.

The reason I'm going to Android:

- Fairly open source OS
- Open source community is embracing it, which means tons of free apps which are actually useful
- App store is not mandated to install apps (no need to hack the phone to use it)
- Fully customizable interface. App developers can write completely unique apps withotu restriction.
- Did I mention the interface is customizable? This means as times change, so can your phone, intependant of the OS maker getting their butts in gear.
- iPhone app nazis don't decide what apps you can use
- No additional $40/mo data plan required (unlike iPhone)
- Sync your mail over the network (no MS Exchange server required)
- Sync your mail over the network (no MS Exchange server required)
- Did I mention syncing your PDA phone over the network.. the whole point of a PDA phone?!
- The interface is just plain easy to use and pretty (completely unlike MS Mobile)
- If there are bugs in the Os, they can be fixed by anyone. (No such thing as Windows Update on a Windows Mobile phone)

Now, as you read this, you may think I am a Windows Mobile hater and be tempted to disregard this post, but keep in mind, moving away from Windows Mobile to Andriod means I lose all of the apps I already own (hundred of dollars easily) and have to find equivalent apps on Andriod, so the change is not one I am looking forward to. It is worth the switch for me, simply because the things windows Mobile does poorly (or not at all) are the exact reasons PDA phones are really getting popular nowadays. They must sync with your desktop, without issue, from anywhere, look pretty, be easy to use, change with the times, and be updateable. None of these things MS does well, most of which are on purpose (to sell Exchange server or sell a new phone, or cross-sell Windows OS).

Are MS Phone (the new name MS is giving their OS) phones utterly useless? No, so long as your fit in that sliver of a market which uses Exchange server, never syncs at home and uses Calculator ALL the time. Otherwise, go iPhone or Android without a doubt. MS just doesn't do phones well, especially for the non-corporate type.
 

i386

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^^^ Extra geek points for Android.

We're on Verizon so one can imagine my displeasure at their practice of locking down their phones. I'm intrigued with the Android phones. They look a little bulky now but it'll be really interesting to watch the product mature.
 

lowkee

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^^^ Extra geek points for Android.

We're on Verizon so one can imagine my displeasure at their practice of locking down their phones. I'm intrigued with the Android phones. They look a little bulky now but it'll be really interesting to watch the product mature.

I'm about to switch from AT&T to Verizon in order to get the HTC Hero coming out next month. AT&T's CEO stated he has no plans to release an Android phone any time soon, so he just lost two customers from lack of choice.

The HTC Hero is very similar to the HTC Diamond2, which is a Windows Phone phone (that always seems redundant).
 

mscher

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LOWKEE,

Is it your experience that a WM device WILL NOT synch up with Outlook at the PC? That is always how I used it's daddy, ActiveSynch. For instance, If I created an email on the PDA, it would synch up with Outlook (at the PC) and then send the email, either through a POP or Exchange email server (depending if I was employed or not, at the time ;) ).

They claim it still can be done with WM.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/el-gr/help/synchronize/connecting-vista.mspx

Synch of Tasks, Notes, Contacts and maybe email, is the main reasons I'm considering WM. Appointment reminders are a must.

I was a huge fan of Microsoft products, when I made a living from supporting it. Not so much now that I'm on the PAYING end!

The GPS stuff sound's good and I'd like to have GPS in my next phone also.


Are there already phones available with Android? May be an option
 

lowkee

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mscher,

WM absolutely will sync with one PC via USB or bluetooth. So if you use Outlook on your desktop, you can sync to it, and any unsent emails will be sent on sync. Syncing is limited to one system, so you can't have it sync with your PC mainly, and your laptop on occasion. POP3 can be done on a WM phone, but you lose sync, since it is configured as a standalone account. All of this sounded dealable when I got mine, but I no longer find the time to jump through configuration hoops in order to get the phone to be usable, since it finds enough ways to break when used natively.

There are a few Android phones out already, but as with WM, the new generation of phones are just getting released in the next month or so. Between now and March there are a whole slew of new (3nd generation) PDA phones coming out which rival (and beat) the iphone in specs. For WM, the Diamond Pro2 and the Diamond2 are the latest gen models out. For Android the Hero is the phone to get, but it has no hardware keyboard, so that may not be your bag depending.
 

mscher

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All right, I'm just going to jump off the deep end. ;)

The wife just got a new Nokia, that has wifi, gps, bluetooth, mp4 movie player, fm radio, etc. ect, with a touch screen/keyboard, very much like the iphone. She was watching movies, via wifi internet connection! No windows mobile on it, or I'd buy the same model.

Now I'm all in! Driving a truck and having gps and wifi internet, in a phone sound's like a great idea.

HTC, HTY, Pantech and other newer brand phones? Do they hold up as well as the Motorolas and Nokias?

Time to start xmas shopping. ;) Selling stuff on ebay to raise the $$.
 
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