Windsheild Problem

zach103

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Re: Windsheild Problem

Ok. sounds good. should i go with what cbavier said and stick with the one inch? and how would i align the consoles once its all done?
 

Hondo65

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I know that I am headed for the same project. My floor is solid but I know from digging around I am on borrowed time as far as the stringers go. For now I am going to take care of the immediate things and enjoy the boat. See how this summer and fuel prices go. If I love it too much to part with it I'll start the resto. In the meantime I am going to be reading alot and asking some questions to prepare.

Hondo
 

jameskb2

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Not for nothing, I know that I am new and so are some other people here. I have a sarcastic side to me. Being in Law Enforcement I am pretty cynical and at times can be rather snide. But here on a website thats main purpose is to be a clearinghouse of information it is discouraging to read the responses from idiots like Bomar76. Boy genius you may be (doubt it though) but I would feel confident in saying there are some areas of life where you are lacking the requisite skills to get by unscathed. Bomars answers don't amount to much more that digital bullying.

Very dissapointing on an otherwise awesome sight.

Hondo

Yeah, I agree.

However, there is a point where the hand holding gets extreme. I know everyone has to learn at their own pace, and the first time is scary, but common sense is something you can't be taught.

I think it's just that sometimes the questions are absolutely unbelievably elementary. I know people are scared, not sure of themselves, ect...but man. "Which way to I turn a nut to tighten it?" kind of things wears on you. I guess if you don't know which end of a screwdriver is the business end, then perhaps you need to buff up on skills before attempting to do surgery.

That's what I see....

I agree though, and have followed this advice many times. If you got nothing good to say, or add, then say nothing. It's no help bashing a guy even if it's a ripe target.

BTW...I love this forum. It's a great site and I'm happy to help when I can. Even though I am a noobie, I do have extensive life experiences and skills to contribute.

My best to all,

JamesK
 

zach103

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hand holding? the guy took a cheap shot at my first question. yeh the second one was a given i can admit it. but i didnt wanna tear the thing out and find out it didnt fix it.
 

jameskb2

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hand holding? the guy took a cheap shot at my first question. yeh the second one was a given i can admit it. but i didnt wanna tear the thing out and find out it didnt fix it.

Zach, please understand that this is not an inflammatory comment.

I have read this site daily, and like many forums, there are some extremely talented people here that have helped HUNDREDS, maybe thousands of people.

Many of the high count posters have been here for years and years.

As I said, sometimes it wears on you. You have a bad day, the IRS sends you an audit notice, your wife yells at you and it's winter...you're cooped up in the house. Sometimes things just get loose.

I've done it, I admit. Not here, but being in internet forums off and on for over 11 years, I've flamed a time or two.

Doesn't mean it's right, sometimes just because your on a computer in your house you feel a little safer to let fly I guess.

Anyway, I've learned to grow thick skin about it, if I'm the target. Often, I'll get a PM that says "Hey, sorry about the other day...I lost it" kinda thing. Even if I don't, I take it with a grain of salt. Think of it like a ribbing with the guys at work or play, they take a little poke....no biggie. We've all got our weakness. :p
 

zach103

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yah you right.. sorry about the other comment i lost it.. it helps
 

jameskb2

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Re: Windsheild Problem

Alright, cool.

As the other, more seasoned members have said, you have a structural situation. I know on my boat, (that needs complete restoration) I can grab the front hand rail and rock it to the point the transom is flexing like a wave.

I too have the walk through window on a bow rider. The window flexes in the space up and down when I rock it.

It has to do with the boat weakening over time. Wave chopping and wear and tear, water intrusion, rot, ect. All contribute to the demise of the boat over time. As fun as the water is on a boat, it's also it's worst enemy. Over time it just breaks it down. Just like a car on a rough road I guess.

So, what can you do? You can get in there and rip the crap out of it, or, you can shim it with some cedar shims as a temp fix. Or...anything in between those extremes. Heck, if you want, just live with it for a season and ditch the boat.

I don't know what your plan is for it, but eventually, as these fine people that are trying to help you said, it will have to be addressed if you want to keep it.

THAT, might mean a total gut and restoration. Depending on how bad it's gotten, and how well it's kept. Once water is in wood, it's downhill from there.

Judging by your picture, eventually you're going to have some bigger issues with the boat. Things have gotten, and are getting wet.

I wouldn't panic, but be aware of it, and come to that acceptance.

My best,

JamesK
 

zach103

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yah. i get where your comin from... under the floor is all fiberglass thats seemsreally sturdy.. i can see some of the boards that cover the gas tank are little water logged and would replace those too... if i replace those and the one under the walk thru i would be good? or would you have to acutally see the boat to tell me that?
 

jameskb2

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I'm sure that replacing whatever parts are damaged will help. :D Have you ever done a project that you started, and it just grew into more and more because you find more and more to do? This could be one of those projects. Again, if you just want to get it under way, then replace what you need as "good enough" until you can do it right, which might mean total surgery.

I have a 1975 Chrysler Courier. It's a total basket case, and that's the way I bought it. I knew it was a resto from day one. Everything's shot, I have to tear it completely apart and rebuild it. Again, I knew that going in. I educated myself with a lot of reading and asking around before I bought it.

I paid $250 with a trailer.

I get the feeling that you are a little surprised, perhaps frustrated, that things are not what they seemed with your boat. Which, don't feel bad, happens to many, many people. Kinda like an initiation, your first boat. Maybe like your first car. It's exciting, you have a new toy, then the reality of keeping that thing going sets in....

So, follow the guy's advice here, repair and replace what you can to sturdy the area from flexing and align it so the window closes. I'd experiment with lifting, pushing to see what moves how, to get an idea of where I need to bolster / shim to get the result I wanted.
 

oops!

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zach.......

tashasdaddy is uasually right on with stuff...he has done many restorations and been in many different circumstances.......check out the link he gave you....twice......your answer is in there......

also the guys down in the restoration will have a few different ideas.....

however if you intend on keeping the boat long.......best roll up your sleeves..!!!....getter done right ...and enjoy many years of boating
 

tashasdaddy

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Zach we will see hundreds, maybe thousands of post just like yours, in a year. it is a real shame that people, sell boats that are not up to par. and also that buyers don't come here first and educate themselves before buying. i am fortunate to have spent most of my life around construction, and love to work with my hands. (degree in accounting, never worked in that field, never balance my own check book, got thru school and then hated it)

i am now 17 years retired at 59. i buy distressed boats just for the purpose of rehabbing them, then selling so beginners can get a start, with a good affordable boat. i rarely make any money at this, because i will not sell and unsafe boat. it is going to be structurally as good or better than when first built. not necessarily pretty.

patch it up for this season. just watch for any signs of it becoming unsafe, you may get a year or 2, before it becomes a must. keep it covered when not in use.
 

zach103

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oh beleive me i trust tashasdaddy to the fullest. and i did have the feelingi would ahve to do work like said its a 22yr old boat... but thanks for all the help guys
 

tashasdaddy

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one thing looks like you have a good power plant, you can always, find another hull in the future.
 
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