What I think of when I read that is that you are letting your hate for President Bush, sway your decision on how to do the right thing in this war. In my opinion, that is not right.<br /><br />In recent months, I've been staying away from threads like these because they end up turning into an all-out flame war which is not worth my time and effort. But honestly, I'm tired of hearing people b*tch and moan about this. I feel like I'm with a group of 4th graders that are upset about the fact that they signed up for a summer soccer program, and no longer want to do it anymore because it requires too much physical effort.<br /><br />Like it or not, the World looks to the USA as a standard of excellence. When catastrophe strikes, all eyes are on us to see what we'll do. As much as all the deluded people who think the UN or any other country has any sort of power, they don't. This isn't delusion, its fact. I find it stupifying that certain people in America HATE America because of this.<br /><br />I am not questioning your patriotism or any of that... what I am questioning is your ability to finish something when it starts to get "tough."<br /><br />It's the soldiers job to risk his life to serve and protect the security of our country. I'm sure you know all about that. When our computer network happens to go down in our company, my coworkers don't say:<br /><br />"You know, I feel bad for Sean, how about we let him stop making him take care of the computers. We'll force him to get us just barely up and running, but we'll rely on other people to finish what he started." <br /><br />When Katrina hit New Orleans, it was the police's job to stay and maintain peace and order. The police fled (inappropriately I might add) and look what happened.<br /><br />When 9-11 happened, police & fire did NOT flee... look what happened. <br /><br />Two totally different outcomes.<br /><br />Yep, it sucks that soldiers are dieing. But it is war. We're not playing checkers.<br /><br />Sean
Short answer:no.<br /><br />But we're in there now and there is no quick way out.
I can agree with you on this point EE. However, W has been going about the war half a22ed since the beginning, otherwise it would have been ended long ago.<br /><br />This war cannot be won, only lost. The difference between all of you with the belief we must stay and myself believing we must get out is our belief in the "plan." <br /><br />Even though none of us have ever heard of the "plan" to end this and get out, you believe one exists while I do not.<br /><br />As far as being politically correct with death vs casualty. I wonder if they call it a casualty while the eulogy is being given. I wonder if it is less painful when the casket is being lowered into the Earth. I wonder if looking at your "casualty" for the final time before closing the casket is any less painful. What I really wonder is if these "casualties" will all be worth it when we pull out while having accomplished nothing more than we accomplished after the first month or so.<br /><br />
What confuses me is the mentality that we can fix things for everybody around the world while we cannot fix issues in out own back yard.<br /><br />I seem to remember W standing in front of the camera shortly after the attack making the declaration of "the war is over." Just more bull. <br /><br />
Iraq did not bring the war to us, we brought it to them. The person responsible for attacking us here is sitting on a beach drinking a margarita somewhere with little concern from our almighty W.<br /><br />
Emphasis on the "what we started" part. I think this says a great deal.<br /><br />
Did we win in Vietnam? They raised the white flag and became a Democracy? All of Vietnam?<br /><br /><br />I'm not sure that we all understand death and its finality. As EE stated, this is not a sit-com and things are not ok after 30 minutes. We entered with no plan, have no plan today, and will have no plan tomorrow. It's tough to draw up a plan when you don't know when it is won.<br /><br />Many victories have been claimed; the statue of Sadaam being toppled, purple fingered voters, etc. But it still appears today in Iraq as it did shortly after Sadaam was removed.<br /><br />We will end up pulling out with little accomplished. The difference of later vs. sooner is more death.
