WWIII

[eeboater]

I'm so sick of this being said... The media (Left right and middle) is jonesing so bad to label something as WWIII its unnerving...

Is it me, or do they WANT it to happen?! Cripes.

 

[DJ]

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I'm not exactly sure what your post means.

As far as "forgetting" WWII, you are correct.

It is NOT taught in most public schools and as far as young folks know-"it never happened". I've quizzed many with very disappointing results. Basically-DUH!

If it is taught: Tojo and Hitler were "misunderstood" and our presence was just a show of "imperialism".

 

[Pony]

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I'm not exactly sure what your post means.

As far as "forgetting" WWII, you are correct.

It is NOT taught in most public schools and as far as young folks know-"it never happened". I've quizzed many with very disappointing results. Basically-DUH!

If it is taught: Tojo and Hitler were "misunderstood" and our presence was just a show of "imperialism".

Spoken like a man who hasnt been in the classroom in a LONG time and is willing to make a broad, incorrect statement to back up his own belief.

They don't teach it like you suggest, at least not in any history class I have taken.

 

[12Footer]

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I'm not exactly sure what your post means.

As far as "forgetting" WWII, you are correct.

It is NOT taught in most public schools and as far as young folks know-"it never happened". I've quizzed many with very disappointing results. Basically-DUH!

If it is taught: Tojo and Hitler were "misunderstood" and our presence was just a show of "imperialism".

Spoken like a man who hasnt been in the classroom in a LONG time and is willing to make a broud incorrect statement to back up his own belief.

They don't teach it like you suggest, at least not in any history class I have taken.

You're just inviting people to make fun of your spelling skills, Pony.

I remember when tojo and hitler were topics of discussion in my 7th grade home room class. There were MANY students who held the view that hitler was misunderstood, or that "tojo was just retaliating for US sanctions imposed-upon Japan". Hell, i've even seen this opinion voiced on the history channel.
Trust me, Pony. This kook mentality is out there, it's vocal, and it's looking for ways to blame Bush as we debate this. Cindy is excited.

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------------------------------------------------From SW Florida, A proud member of iboats since March 25,2001
The old me

 

[12Footer]

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Back on-topic, I am inclined to agree with those who see this as the opening salvos of the third global war.
There is little to productively do but choose the side you want to be victorious, and support it. I have chosen mine..... Or you could just join the "neutral" Chamberlain's.
And I do not think many "WANT it to happen", but are anxious to settle it. It has been a festering wound since the end of WWII --- "Unfinished buisness" as it were.
Read John 3:16 for any fills.


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------------------------------------------------From SW Florida, A proud member of iboats since March 25,2001
The old me

 

[RubberFrog]

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EE, you are so right.

 

[Gone]

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I thought that the John Bircher's declared that WWIII had already started a couple of decades ago. Some claim that the war on terror is WWIII. Most generations today have no concept of what a World War really is.

 

[txswinner]

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I do not know what WW is like but I am certain that we can not defeat China in a conventional war, with them a 1,000,000 man army and plenty ready behind them. So we must learn to communicate because final victory is probably the end.

I remember in the '60 when many said the day would come to pass when we would be allies with USSR and China would be the enemy, ha bunch of looney left wing educators.

 

[RubberFrog]

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How many bombs does it take to blow up a million man army?

 

[Kevin70]

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America and China would only go to war with each other as an absolute last resort. Both have too much to loose economically, and the leaders of both countries know that. China does have a fair amount of trade with North Korea, so they would never threaten them publicly, but they would also never go to war with America over them. A move like that would be financially devestating to them and us.

 

[QC]

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How many bombs does it take to blow up a million man army?

A couple of clarifications please . . . Bombs or bomblets? Will the million man march hold still for a minute? Will they squinch together? Is one of them Louis Farrakhan? Jesse Jackson? Jesse Ventura?

 

[JRJ]

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WWIII started September 11, 2001. Sadly, it won't end as long as our enemies live.

 

[Kevin70]

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QC..............dang man.......somebody has some issues.:^

 

[WillyBWright]

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Agree with LRJ. I hope he's wrong about the last part, but his guess is as good as mine.

 

[QC]

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I agree with JRJ as there is a huge difference to this latest dust up regarding Israel. This is not about some neighboring state having an issue with Israel, ala Egypt, Syria etc. This is about an Islamic Fundamentalist Government trying to draw us into a fight. This is Iran using Hezbollah to poke at the U.S. by using Israel as a proxy. Very different than previous attacks and incursions into Israel. Those were about specific pieces of real estate. This is not . . .

Edit: Sorry Kevin70, just funnin' with the Frogger . . .

 

[Triton II]

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Hmmm, QC has a point, however, I believe it's Syria who are the main culprits in using Hezbollah to destabilise the Lebanese government so that they can cry, "but we're only going back in to protect the Lebanese civilian population" after they invade the place yet again. Syria had their nose bloodied by being thrown out of the Lebanon and this is their revenge. To them, killing a few Israelis is just icing on the cake. :devil:

 

[QC]

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We are hearing here that there is little dispute that Iran is at the Hezbollah controls. This inlcudes the missile used to strike an Israeli warship. Apparently a silkworm missile fired with Iranian personnel support . . .

 

[Haut Medoc]

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Nuke the border!

 

[wvit1001]

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The problem with starting a war with a religion is that unlike fighting a country the current war would never end. When your fighting a country getting rid of the government pretty much ends the war. Who do you fight when your fighting an idea? As long as we work under the misconception that there is some way to end this war with bombs then we will never find a way to end this. Bombing a city only turns the population against you and provides the enemy with more recruites.

99% of the Muslims would rather just get along and go about their everyday business. Allowing the 1% of radicals to dictate our policy and decisions only plays into their purposes.

This war is more like fighting a bunch of large loosely knit well armed gangs. They hide amoung an look like everyone else. Trying to fight them with tanks and bombs without getting the general population of the country behind your efforts only makes the radicals stronger.

There are a couple of ME governments that are a real problem and who export the means for this war to continue. Iran and Syria's governments have been problems for years. These countries may force a war but destroying the infrastructure of Lebanon isn't helping the situation since the majority government in Lebanon was democratic. How do you think Lebanon feels now? I'll bet the next election there comes out different.

Our going into Iraq hasn't helped the situation any either. Saddam's government wasn't the greatest but he wasn't for any Muslim holy war either. He was, in fact, fighting against Iran and had been for years. Up until he invaded Kuwait we were supporting his efforts. We did Iran a favor by getting rid of their worst enemy so that they could give more attention to spreading their radical religious ideas.

I believe Bush was right when he said that Iran and North Korea were huge threats. Iraq wasn't even in the running for being a threat. I think he thought that Iraq would be a cake walk and that we could overthrow Saddam and get a foothold in the region from which we could work to change the ME. This was a huge miscalculation. But we are there now so that arguement is mute.

I'm afraid that our current government has no ideas or plans on how to stabilize this situation and it's going to take a different administration with much different ideas to help repair our image and the cooperation of the world to solve this problem. Think that we can sit here half a world away from the ME and solve their problems with military force will never win this war.

 

[Pony]

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I don't disagree 12fter that the mentality is out there.....I just think to say that WWII isnt taught is fricken absurd. I took a Class in college that was only about Hitler, took a class in high school that was only WWII..........

Maybe I live in some time warp........idk. Like I said its one thing to say the mentality exists, and quite another to use such a blanket statement.

Oh, the mispelling was me trying to type a response and run to work...............not like this spell check works anyways.8)