Your opinion please...

stemar

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Hello,<br />Can you please tell me which is the best position (A, B, C or D) to install my transducer?<br />Please note that the "D" possition is 35cm from the center of the boat. Please see the attach photo.<br />Thanking you in advance <br /> boat
 

mattttt25

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don't have a reason why, but mine are located right around your position "c". work just find. good luck-
 

neumanns

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It is my understanding that you should mount the transducer where you have the least turbulant water so as to reduce errors in your returns and unwanted returns. I would shy away from (a) it is most likley to have air introduced from wave action.Your signal will not penitrate air and thus you get no return on screen.<br /><br />Put your boat in the water and have a good look-see and decide from there.
 

AndyL

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I think Neumanns has hit the nail on the head. The thing to do is to run your boat at the normal speed and have a good look over the stern and see where there is least turbulence or bubbles/aeration. That is then the best place. Some transducers that fit relatively flush to the transom do benefit from a little silicone sealer in any gap left so that this does not cause aeration when motoring at speed. After fitting you may have to adjust the angle slightly to get the best response. Normally I have found that a few degrees down does the job.
 

ajp

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I would try to find a way to mount the transducer to shoot through the hull, or add a plate to the back of your boat to mount it. My transducer is mounted to the center of my boat and shoots through the fiberglass. Works great. I have decided that I never want another hole in my transom. The 4 holes that bolt the motor on are enough and they are generally higher than the water level while moving.
 

Jack Shellac

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Of these four, I'd pick C. You don't want it directly behind a strake because of possible turbulence that will interfere with the transducer signal. You want a location that has a smooth flow of water at all times. Take a look at www.eaglesonar.com. It may be useful. Lowrance also has a site.
 

stemar

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Thank you all guys for your answers.<br />My question now is if it is not recomended to install it on B or D where are the strakes?<br />Thanks again
 

stemar

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Hello again,<br />Below find the "official" answer" from Lowrance.<br />Please give me your comments on this.<br /><br />"Thank you for your inquiry. The angle is a little perplexing however I think<br />closer to "D" is appropriate. My recommendations are to place the transducer in<br />the first third of the distance from the bilge plug to the gunnels. Place where<br />it receives a clear flow of water, and not behind a hull chine or trailer bunk<br />or roller. <br /><br />Thank you for choosing Lowrance"
 

Kesh

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I installed my Humminbird Fishfinder and the transducer, and as it was my first installation I read carefully the manual. I wanted to avoid something that I saw in another boat: the sonar lose signal when the boat is moving fast. Well, the Humminbird manual is very detailed when talking about transducer installation. It says that the unit works fine at speeds from 0 to over 70 mph, but it all depends on the installation of the transducer. As mentioned above, it is very important to locate the transducer in an area which is relatively free of turbulent water. Avoid places near strakes or rivets, and it says that for outboards it is best to stay at least 15 inches to the side of the propeller(s). Another consideration is the angle of deadrise. The transducer when mounted should point straight down. For the Humminbird transducer, if the deadrise angle is greater than 15 degrees it will be necessary to angle the transducer slightly, but keep in mind that the area covered will be somewhat to one side of the boat. The manual provides a cardboard template to drill the holes for transom installation ensuring the correct angle. The manual also explains the inside the hull mounting method, as the transducer that came with my Humminbird can be transom or inside hull mounted. I opted for the inside the hull installation, as I wanted to avoid damage because of hitting the transducer with the forklift at the marina or with the bottom at the beach or shallow waters (indeed, that happened to the previous transducer). For inside the hull installation the same rules apply: selected area must be free of turbulent water on the outside (avoid ribs, strakes and other protrusions), select a point close to the centerline of the hull and near to transom, as this area will be in contact with the water at high speeds. For inside the hull installation the manual recommends (and that is exactly what I did) to mount the screen unit and then connect the transducer cable, laying it free on the deck and test placing the transducer unit in the bilge area without glue. It is recommended to put a small amount of water in the bilge so the transducer remains submerged. This avoids air to be between the transducer and the hull (signal can not travel through the air). You can use a small bag with sand to keep the transducer in place. Then you can test different places at low and high speeds, and select the best location. Once selected, use a slow-cure, two-part epoxy. NEVER USE SILICONE OR ANY OTHER SOFT ADHESIVE as it degrades the signal considerably.<br /><br />My unit is working fine inside the hull. If you want, send me an email to kesh@cantv.net and I will scan and send you the manual pages. It is very detailed and worked great for me.
 

stemar

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Thanks Kesh,<br />My previous unit was Humminbird sx100 and I did exactly the same installation like you did and I wasn't really happy with the unit. So now I prefer to install it outisde. If you read the answer from eagle you will see that they recomended me to install it to the first third from bilge plug... but this location is less that one foot from the engine.(in their manual says DO NOT install it closer than one foot from the engine's lower unit), I don't understand this and now I'm really confused. Thanks
 

Kesh

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Well, I have to say that I agree with you in respect of unit performance. It is not very good. In any case it is my first one so I think it is enough for now. I the case of my Humminbird I think low performance is more related to the low price, entry level specs than to transducer location.
 

Cobotr

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When mounting the transducer inside the bilge area, the warning comes that each boat manufacturer may result with different outcomes. The transducer must not see air, whether that comes in the form of airation under the hull or air trapped in the fiberglass during the manufacturing process.<br /><br />I have my unit epoxied inside the bilge, right on dead center about 18" forward of the transom, and am delighted with it's performance. It's such a worry free solution.
 

Kesh

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Yeah, I think location inside hull is the best solution. Mine works fine. When I say that "performance is not very good" I refer to sometimes the unit loses track of the bottom when depth is more than 180 ft and we are running at 25-30 mph. This happens rarely, but happens. As the specs indicate that the range is 600 ft I don't know why it loses track in such a reduced depth. My unit is a wide128, 200 kHz and 24 degrees side to side and front to rear cone. Maybe in saltwater the actual depth capability is reduced.
 
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