can plywood deck be patched?

zool

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If you want to make some small bulkheads for that area instead of cleats, that's fine, just remember to allow for water drainage back, notch the corner where it meets the stringer bedding/lam.
 

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So I have everything I needed to remove out of the way. I'm going to cut plywood tomorrow and grind down old stuff. The only thing I don't like is where the outside stringer stops , there is nothing but the hull to support the plywood. I am probably thinking this through way too much but I can't stop thinking that maybe if I spray some foam in there before I piece the plywood back in there. Any thoughts ?
 

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If you want, it would be eazy smeazy to glass a Cleat to the side of the hull to support the deck at that corner point to ease your mind.;)
 

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It's tough to tell from the pic but the angle changes at the end of the outside stringer and the slope increases too. Not sure how I would glass a cleat in that would help for more than a few inches. I think if I put a couple bulkheads on the outside too , the strength should be there. Thanks for the feedback Woodonglass !
 

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Well my wording might not have been to descriptive. This photoshopped pic probably show more clearly what I mean. It's more like glassing in an extension of the stringer to the hull!!!
 

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It's an illusion from the pic. The outside stringer stops there because it has to. The pic doesn't show what it actually looks like. The hull starts to curve in so a cleat won't work. That's why I was thinking of foam just as something that might help with pounding seas. I love what you did with the photo though. It's great to see what ideas the guys on this site come up with. I couldn't do this repair without the guidance of this great site.
 

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Alrighty Then! I'll shut up now and go back to the Barn!!!!:eek::facepalm: I hate those Optical Illusions!!! Don't like Magicians either!!!:nono:
 

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Could you just slide the extra stringer/cleat further down the slope of the hull . Keep it parallel with the original ...
Cut the bottom to conform with the hull ...
 

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I appreciate ur help guys. I'm gonna take another pic today and try to capture what's going on. The boat is 27 years old and there is no rot so I think I'm going a little overboard on the outside stringers. After I put those bulkheads in that zool was talking about this boat will have more lateral strength that it had when it was new! Woodonglass I wish I had a barn to go to sometimes! I'm jealous!
 

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Could you just slide the extra stringer/cleat further down the slope of the hull . Keep it parallel with the original ...
Cut the bottom to conform with the hull ...


Concur with MR. Phelps and add some bulkheads. Looking forward to the new pics. But yea the illusion is there like you said.
 

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OK so I probably should have grabbed a bottle of Jameson and celebrated St. Patty's Day rather than heading down to the marina again. I started out pretty good, I was able to remove all the skins on the stringers. Holy crap Sphelps you were right about the respirators that stuff goes everywhere. Zool had said to plastic off everything , glad I did that too. So I'm moving along and I'm back by my shower sump pump where the stringers go into a bulkhead. Bulkhead seem solid but the stringer is wet, it probably goes for a foot or so. It is not easy to get to this because the aft cabin wall is above this. And that's connected to the deck above oh brother! Not sure what to do from here but I'm not feeling good about it.

As to the cleat towards the bow on the port side, I could sneak something in there to buy around 6 inches but I was really thinking about further up toward the bow but I think I have bigger problems now!
 

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It's tough to tell from the pic but the angle changes at the end of the outside stringer and the slope increases too. Not sure how I would glass a cleat in that would help for more than a few inches. I think if I put a couple bulkheads on the outside too , the strength should be there. Thanks for the feedback Woodonglass !

You dont want little bulkheads outside the outer stringers against the hull side, you will just create hard spots with little pointy wooden spears, poking at the hull ;) Just put it back as it was, cantilevered over the outer, about 1/2" from the hull side, then bed and tab.

If the stringer is wet and starting to rot by the bulkhead, you should probably change it, its already exposed, or you can cut out the back section, and scab in a new section, then glass it all...
 

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That's the thing, it's only exposed on the sides not the top. Can I sneak a new section under the plywood? Good advice on the cleat info up front. Thanks
 

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That's the thing, it's only exposed on the sides not the top. Can I sneak a new section under the plywood? Good advice on the cleat info up front. Thanks

Does that stringer continue thru the bulkhead? or terminate there, and whats on the other side of the bulkhead.?
 

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Just a thought . maybe you could use one of those multi oscillating tools with the offset blade to cut the rotten stringer out from under the plywood ..
Sister a new piece in ... You would need to cut the bulkhead back far enough to gain access to the stringer ... Where there's a will there's a way ! ;)
 

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The other side of that bulkhead is under the aft cabin. I'm pretty sure the wood changes. There is no way 2x10's run under that aft cabin.
 

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Page 3 post #35 those pics are from under the aft cabin to the bulkhead taken from the engine compartment holding the camera under the fuel tank.
 

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I don't know whats in your aft cabin, but mine is a bunk, basically cushion over carpet over plywood. I was gonna cut a hole in the floor of mine, but decided to cut my way in from the gas tank enclosure instead.

If it terminates at the bulkhead, you can cut it out, and slide a new piece, along with a sister board, and run the sister up to your 1st new bulkhead.
 

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Sounds doable . So if the stringer ends at the bulkhead , cut out the rot and cut old stringer on an angle. Cut new stringer on an angle and sneak it in under above plywood. Maybe attach stringer to plywood first then butter bottom before glass in ? If stringer goes all the way through I'll wait till next year and have the boat shipped to my house where I can work on it all winter. I can still repair everything up front and use the boat this summer.
 
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