Agreed I started with a pair of Michigan Vortex 4 Blades on my old boat (sea ray 170/3.0l) for more azz when towing skiers. Al was a good way to cut my teeth on prop swaps. My new boat I get bets holeshot with a Vensura but a lot of slip at WOT. The Revolution 4 I bought used on Ebay for $300...