$14,000 for a 1990 Sunbird 170 seem kinda steep???

Mischief Managed

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Re: $14,000 for a 1990 Sunbird 170 seem kinda steep???

Boston Whaler Dauntless 170 w/90 HP
Go to bostonwhaler.com and price one out. Add some basic extras (canvas, nav/depth) and you'll see it's a lot higher. Granted its just MSRP and there'd be a discount on the dealer lot, but I only make points I can support with data.

Please tell me this is an early April Fools joke.
 

BonairII

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Re: $14,000 for a 1990 Sunbird 170 seem kinda steep???

BonairII - 2011 E-tec was more than that...around 8.5K and another 2k or so to rig (need to look at receipts for actual numbers). I looked at NADA numbers for used 2011, but couldn't say what it is actually worth outside of retail. I can sit on this boat for as long as I need/want; already have a new boat lined up for later this summer.

I do take offense to your comment about depreciation though, I'm actually really conservative about pricing used items.

2k to rig it? Is that labor alone?

No reason to take offense at the depreciation comment unless it actually pertains to you.

You can ask any price you want, it's your boat....doesn't mean that you'll get anywhere near asking price. NADA prices are useless IMO. What price would you consider "lowballing"?

Have you seen any boats similar to yours that are selling/sold for anywhere near $14k?
 

QC

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Re: $14,000 for a 1990 Sunbird 170 seem kinda steep???

Thanks everyone - like I said, I appreciate your input. I'm happy to listen to your suggestions about how I can sell this boat, if you so choose to post more.
Glad you found us, but I struggle to see over $5500 for that boat despite the new Etec. It's just the way it is. A lot of guys here regularly scour Craig's for boats to refurb. We also know what many of these are worth despite owner's expectations. If you are going to engage us I would suggest you respect some of our abilities and comments. Yes, they were working you over pretty good, but the fact is most of these guys know what they are talking about ;)
 

JoLin

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Re: $14,000 for a 1990 Sunbird 170 seem kinda steep???

Regulator, the only thing that package has going for it is the motor. The boat needs gelcoat repair, rotted wood repair and reupholstery. You don't mention the condition of stringers and transom. Are they in good shape? The trailer may be in reasonable condition, but despite what you were told, those old tires are no good- they were dry rotted and unsafe 10 years ago.

I can buy 17-18 foot, 20-year-old 'project' boats on trailers for $1000 all day long.

If it were my ad, it would concentrate on the motor and throw in the boat and trailer for a grand.

My .02
 

tomdinwv

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Re: $14,000 for a 1990 Sunbird 170 seem kinda steep???

tomdinwv - If you received a boat from your grandfather, because he couldn't use it anymore due to health issues, wouldn't you feel some emotional attachment? That doesn't make me think the boat is worth more than it is, but I'm not about to junk it. I don't need the money from the sale, it's more about continuing its legacy and what it represents to me personally, so if someone else can enjoy it then I'd be happy.


I have things that were my father's or my grandfather's and, yes, I have an emotional attatchment to those things. Each time I see or use them, it reminds me of specific memories. Most of the things I have from my father and grandfather are tools and a few other odds and ends, so I don't think I'd ever sell them as they will never "outgrow" their usefullness to me like a boat or car would. When I am looking around to buy something, I'm not looking to purchase someone else's memories or emotional attatchments. If I were to sell my boat to someone who wanted to take it out and use it for target practice, that's fine with me. I would however, set a realistic price. I'm in the process of repowering my boat right now (that's what I should be doing right now instead of playing on iboats :p). I know if and when I sell my boat, I'm gonna eat most of the cost of the repower. I can only sell my boat for what the local market will allow. If I were looking to buy, and ran across your add, I'd simply keep looking as I feel it's to much money for that particular boat. You may end up selling it for, or near, your asking price and if so, then good for you. The reactions you have seen on here are simply the thoughts of a cross section of the used boat buying public. Simply put, without trying to be rude, is most folks are gonna look at the ad and think "that's to much money for that boat". Good luck, I hope you sell it for a price that you are comfortable with.
 

floatfan

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Re: $14,000 for a 1990 Sunbird 170 seem kinda steep???

I just feel honored to have been included in this jewel of a post. Gotta love iboats!

Can't really call $200 of neccesary repair materials as "free" when your boat is priced $8-$10k more than it's worth (in my market anyhow). Good luck. ;)
 

rockyrude

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Re: $14,000 for a 1990 Sunbird 170 seem kinda steep???

If you read his post, he is NOT including the interior materials in the deal.
 

floatfan

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Re: $14,000 for a 1990 Sunbird 170 seem kinda steep???

If you read his post, he is NOT including the interior materials in the deal.

But he says "whoever buys the boat can have them"...then says "over $200 materials for free". So, even though he makes a point to say these materials aren't in the deal price, all I'm saying is that when you're that overpriced to begin with, $200 in neccesary materials doesn't really excite me.
 

RogersJetboat454

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Re: $14,000 for a 1990 Sunbird 170 seem kinda steep???

Boston Whaler Dauntless 170 w/90 HP
Go to bostonwhaler.com and price one out. Add some basic extras (canvas, nav/depth) and you'll see it's a lot higher. Granted its just MSRP and there'd be a discount on the dealer lot, but I only make points I can support with data.

The comparison between this boat and yours is like comparing a brand new caddy to a 1990 Chevy that has a newer engine, but the rest of the car needs work.

It's a buyers market Sir. Everybody pinched by this economy and high fuel prices is looking to dump their toys. I dare say, I could buy a newer comparable boat with the same power that's turn key (nothing needed) for the same or less then what you are expecting.

As far as a automatic float switch is concerned, FYI my '76 Glastron had an automatic float switch installed before your Sunbird was molded at the factory. It's a nice feature to mention in an Ad, but by no means is it a "modern" upgrade. ;)
 

DuckHunterJon

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Re: $14,000 for a 1990 Sunbird 170 seem kinda steep???

The comparison between this boat and yours is like comparing a brand new caddy to a 1990 Chevy that has a newer engine, but the rest of the car needs work.

Dang, you beat me to it - I had a whole repsonse ready comparing a refreshed 1990 Cavalier to a New Cadilac. Apples and oranges.

But I do have to give the seller credit for coming on here and defending his position - that takes guts and I respect it. As for the price, the seller is right, you can ask what ever you want and maybe someone will bite. But along with that needs to come the ability to understand that people will call you out on it.
 

roscoe

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Re: $14,000 for a 1990 Sunbird 170 seem kinda steep???

I want it. The E tec that is.


:rolleyes:


My guess, is he only "knew to come here" because one of "you guys" emailed him,
to tip him off,
at 2:15 am.


:cool:
 

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Re: $14,000 for a 1990 Sunbird 170 seem kinda steep???

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Re: $14,000 for a 1990 Sunbird 170 seem kinda steep???

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Mike Zee

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Re: $14,000 for a 1990 Sunbird 170 seem kinda steep???

Has to be an April fools deal, found out early! Come on, fess up...
 

tpenfield

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Re: $14,000 for a 1990 Sunbird 170 seem kinda steep???

CL ad has been taken down, so it obviously sold quickly. :)
 
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