1979 80HP Mercury

Kissdude

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Hi,
Was wondering if someone could please help me. I was changing my water impeller and now when I put it in neutral position the propellor doesn’t spin in both directions. Is this right or wrong?
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Kissdude

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I was wondering if someone could help me please. I was changing the impeller and not sure what happened but now the propeller doesn’t spin freely in neutral, just one way, is this right or wrong?

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Kissdude

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Ok, I will try this again. I replaced my impeller and when I went to install gear case, I thought it was in forward gear but now I don't know. what do I do to make sure I'm putting this back together properly? Does the lower case have to be in neutral and shifter in forward? I'm a little confused and would really appreciate any help.

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jimmbo

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No, both the Case and the Linkage above it have to be either in Gear, or Neutral.
 

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The clutch dog is spring loaded.---If you remove gearcase in NEUTRAL it likely will go to forward during the work.----That is why there has been so much confusion in the past.----And it will continue to be confusing.----You need to confirm that control and lower unit are in the SAME position on assembly !
 

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It is best to install the gearcase in neutral, as lower shift rod is in a single position, not a range as in forward. Obviously the control needs to be in neutral as well.
 

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Spinning one way with a rachet sound means the gearcase is in forward. Use a crescent wrench to gently turn the lower shift rod CCW until it clicks into neutral.
 

Kissdude

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The clutch dog is spring loaded.---If you remove gearcase in NEUTRAL it likely will go to forward during the work.----That is why there has been so much confusion in the past.----And it will continue to be confusing.----You need to confirm that control and lower unit are in the

The clutch dog is spring loaded.---If you remove gearcase in NEUTRAL it likely will go to forward during the work.----That is why there has been so much confusion in the past.----And it will continue to be confusing.----You need to confirm that control and lower unit are in the SAME position on assembly !
Does it matter what position they’re in? Can I just pick one but as long as both are the same?
 

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Spinning one way with a rachet sound means the gearcase is in forward. Use a crescent wrench to gently turn the lower shift rod CCW until it clicks into neutral.
What’s the best way to get get the lower shift rod to mate?
 

Kissdude

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It is best to install the gearcase in neutral, as lower shift rod is in a single position, not a range as in forward. Obviously the control needs to be in neutral as well.
I’m having trouble getting the lower shift rod to mate, any tricks to get it in would be appreciated. Thanks
 

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The best way is to have both gearcase and control in neutral. From my other post:

There is a molded plastic fitting that holds the upper shift rod in place, in the midsection. They often fall into the gearcase where they do not function, or they get lost. If you have this fitting, make sure it is installed in the midsection when installing gearcase. Stick it in with grease or something.

To install the gearcase: Tilt the motor all the way up. lock it up if necessary. Make sure the plastic water tube extension is in the waterpump output. Grease the splines on driveshaft and shiftshaft. Slide driveshaft into midsection. Insert copper water tube into plastic water tube extension. Push and hold gearcase into midsection. Turn flywheel until driveshaft splines mate. Push until shift shafts meet. They may mate or you may need to rock the throttle handle to help them mate. If you don't have the fitting, you may need to use a needle nose plier to move the shiftshaft, from outside the midsection, to help it mate.

Put a nut on the front stud and using only your hands (never wrenches), wiggle the gearcase on. Make sure the upper shift shaft is mated with the lower shift shaft, or it will be pushed up into the lower carb.
 

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The best way is to have both gearcase and control in neutral. From my other post:

There is a molded plastic fitting that holds the upper shift rod in place, in the midsection. They often fall into the gearcase where they do not function, or they get lost. If you have this fitting, make sure it is installed in the midsection when installing gearcase. Stick it in with grease or something.

To install the gearcase: Tilt the motor all the way up. lock it up if necessary. Make sure the plastic water tube extension is in the waterpump output. Grease the splines on driveshaft and shiftshaft. Slide driveshaft into midsection. Insert copper water tube into plastic water tube extension. Push and hold gearcase into midsection. Turn flywheel until driveshaft splines mate. Push until shift shafts meet. They may mate or you may need to rock the throttle handle to help them mate. If you don't have the fitting, you may need to use a needle nose plier to move the shiftshaft, from outside the midsection, to help it mate.

Put a nut on the front stud and using only your hands (never wrenches), wiggle the gearcase on. Make sure the upper shift shaft is mated with the lower shift shaft, or it will be pushed up into the lower carb.
Thanks for the info, I’ve been doing all this but still having troubles in the final step (getting the shift shafts to mate). Rocking the throttle handle, do you mean side to side or front to back? Been doing it alone cause I don’t have any help. Thanks
 

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Could someone help me please? I was able to get my 1979 80 hp started but something doesn't seem correct. It starts pretty good but if I go to move it out of neutral, it revs really high, I don't dare to see if it goes into forward gear. any info on this would be greatly appreciated thanks.
 

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Disconnect the shift cable at the engine. Now when installing the gearcase, move the shift slider a bit to mate the upper and lower shift rods.
 

Kissdude

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Disconnect the shift cable at the engine. Now when installing the gearcase, move the shift slider a bit to mate the upper and lower shift rods.
Thank you for all that information, I got the gearcase back together and working. I'm now having troubles with the controller. The motor starts really good, idles a little high but when I move the throttle a little into forward position, the engine starts to rev really high and then when I move it back to reverse a quarter, the ide goes down and will stall if I go farther. Any idea what I have done wrong?
Thanks!
 

Kissdude

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Got the Control Cables swapped
So what I have done is, swapped motor from another boat to my boat and didn’t use the controller from that boat but instead used a quick silver controller I had laying around that I want to use as the controller from other boat is older, It’s all Mercury and I thought it was all the same. Can I do this?
 

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Operate the Control with the Cables off the Motor, the Shift Cable will move 1st, and once it stops, the Throttle Cable will begin to move.
 

Kissdude

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Operate the Control with the Cables off the Motor, the Shift Cable will move 1st, and once it stops, the Throttle Cable will begin to move.
Ok I know which one is which but when I hook them up it’s really hard to move into either gear, when they are unhooked from the motor, they move really nice. Any thoughts? Thanks!
 
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