A couple questions about a old Mercruiser..

69Gulfstream

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Hi,
I've been trying to locate the reason for a very harsh vibration/grinding noise in my old 69 Glastron with a straight 6 160 Mercruiser in it. It only does this when its in nuetral at a fast idle. It was recomended that I remove the drive and look at the Ujoints.. but the Ujoints look and feel great with zero play.. Also the gimbal bearing turns free, and feels very tight with no play that I can feel either.. The gimbal bearing when turned does have some very slight roughness when turned in one spot.. Also were the drive shaft goes into the top of the drive the bearing is very tight there with no slop.. The only slop or play that I can find is that when I turn the drive shaft there is about 3/4 inch play before the prop turns.. Its almost a inch of play.. Now for a couple questions..

How do you grease the gimbal bearing? I can't find any kind of zerk for that.

How smooth should the gimbal bearing be? Is any at all ruffness ok?

How much play is ok to have in the gears of the drive?

Also is it possible that this noise/vibration that I'm looking for could be of the shifting mechanism being wore out so maybe the gears are rubbing in the lower end? When shifting in the lake its got a very spongey feel on the shifter.. And then it just pops out or in when trying to shift.. Sometimes when trying to get it out of reverse it will pop straight into forward gear or vise versa.. It feels like theres alot of slop in it..

Many thanks to anybody that can help me shed some light here.. I'd sure like to figure out whats makin this wraket.. :)

Chris
 

MikDee

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Re: A couple questions about a old Mercruiser..

The gimble bearing is greased through a small hole (to a recessed zerk) on the right side of the outdrive bellhousing area. By the way, that sounds like way too much play in the gears.
 

bamadave

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Re: A couple questions about a old Mercruiser..

The bearing should feel good when turned 360 degrees, no roughness allowed.
 

Alumarine

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Re: A couple questions about a old Mercruiser..

Chances are that there is no zerc to grease the gimble bearing.

Someone here has a picture of a tool they made to grease the bearing although I can't find it right now. The bearing must be removed to grease.
 

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Re: A couple questions about a old Mercruiser..

Chances are that there is no zerc to grease the gimble bearing.
Someone here has a picture of a tool they made to grease the bearing although I can't find it right now. The bearing must be removed to grease.

The zerc fitting for the gimble bearing is where I said!
Go to page #8, look to your right at letter-C (gimble bearing zerc fitting)
http://www-alt.mercurymarine.com/mnetdata/SERVICE/CRUISER/Servmanl/6/6B1R3.PDF
 

Alumarine

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Re: A couple questions about a old Mercruiser..

MikDee, help me out here.

I can't find the zerc on my pre-1974 gimble.
 

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MikDee

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Re: A couple questions about a old Mercruiser..

MikDee, help me out here.

I can't find the zerc on my pre-1974 gimble.

Sorry, :redface: I guess that old a unit doesn't have one? All I know is that I had one on both my 1978, & 1979, Type 1 drives, and I considered them old school design.
 

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Re: A couple questions about a old Mercruiser..

Doubtful that your has a fitting, you can update it to the new style setup.
The bearing should be smooth as silk all the way around,no binding or roughness when you spin it.I made this when working on the older ones converted to the new style bearing. For vearing that can be greased,Slots are installed facing aft, turn bearing sideways in the slots and remove it,NOTE THE LOCATION OF THE GREASE HOLE IN THE OUTER RACE.
reinstall the same way.
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Re: A couple questions about a old Mercruiser..

Sorry, :redface: I guess that old a unit doesn't have one? All I know is that I had one on both my 1978, & 1979, Type 1 drives, and I considered them old school design.

I was surprised when I first went to grease it. :)
 

69Gulfstream

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Re: A couple questions about a old Mercruiser..

Hi,
Well I'm going to order a new gimbal bearing.. Mine doesn't have a zerk like on the new ones I see now.. But maybe first I should look into updating it to the newer style bearing.. Whats involved in updating to a greasable gimbal bearing? Can you replace just the gimbal houseing to a newer style one?
To bad this still doesn't fix my vibration.

Thanks,
Chris
 
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