Anyone as Stessed Out as I am??

bruceb58

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I use Duke energy and AT&T as examples but there are many more of hyper greed.
AT&T has a 11.6% profit margin. Duke has 5.7%. Exxon has 6%. Those don't sound like hyper profit margins to me. The company I work for in the tech industry is 20%. Apple is also 20%. I guess I like that my company has a nice profit margin. Keeps me employed and pays me well.

There is a certain segment of our population(media) that likes to stir the pot and get people riled up. Guess it helps sell papers and advertisements on their broadcasts. Too bad they aren't based on facts. My opinion is that THEY are the ones with the hyper greed, making money by preying on people's emotions.

Without companies willing to invest and innovate to make a "greedy profit", we wouldn't have Tesla, Apple...
 
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ATT&T has a 11.6% profit margin. Duke has 5.7%. Exxon has 6%. Those don't sound like hyper profit margins to me. The company I work for in the tech industry is 20%. Apple is also 20%. I guess I like that my company has a nice profit margin. Keeps me employed and pays me well.

There is a certain segment of our population(media) that likes to stir the pot and get people riled up. Guess it helps sell papers and advertisements on their broadcasts. Too bad they aren't based on facts. My opinion is that THEY are the ones with the hyper greed, making money by preying on people's emotions.

Without companies willing to invest and innovate to make a "greedy profit", we wouldn't have Tesla, Apple...

Yep my favorite pot stir is health insurance companies with their 2% and 3% profit margins. One of the lowest margin businesses around so media points at their massive revenues and profit dollar amounts without pointing out the actual percentage. So disingenuous.
 

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AT&T has a 11.6% profit margin. Duke has 5.7%. Exxon has 6%. Those don't sound like hyper profit margins to me. The company I work for in the tech industry is 20%. Apple is also 20%. I guess I like that my company has a nice profit margin. Keeps me employed and pays me well.

There is a certain segment of our population(media) that likes to stir the pot and get people riled up. Guess it helps sell papers and advertisements on their broadcasts. Too bad they aren't based on facts. My opinion is that THEY are the ones with the hyper greed, making money by preying on people's emotions.

Without companies willing to invest and innovate to make a "greedy profit", we wouldn't have Tesla, Apple...

Do you think they keep those margins low by buying out other companies? Expanding? Paying upper level management a lot more than other employees? Check out their CEO pay. One of their excuses recently is their fuel bills went up. Well duh! Maybe they could have spent some of that billion buy out money on fuel? Oh no, they are going to buy this and that and expand and we(the customer) are going to pay for it. My Home is buried under AT&T sells advertising that comes in the mail just about every day. That is where a good bit of their profit goes. Oh no but they need to raise the land line bill every other month Google about their unhappy employees who say that when a cell phone customer calls for tech help they are expected to "Upsell " them or get them off the phone asap. But I would guess Utilities find ways to keep the profit margins down so they can get approval for future rate increases?
Apple uses labor in China at a fraction of the cost of a US employee. Google about the 800,000 employee plant in China where nets had to be placed around buildings because so many Chinese were committing suicide by jumping off them. Apple and other high tech entities sub out to this Chinese company that houses their people like mice and pays them with cheese. Ok I doubt they could afford American cheese with their daily pay
 
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bruceb58

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Check out their CEO pay.
The CEO's total compensation at the company I work at was $3.5 million. 90% of this was due to incentives based on how the company performed. Do you think that is too high? I actually think it was a bargain. As an employee and a stockholder of companies where the CEOs make large sums, if they are worth their pay then I am fine with it.

By the way, AT&T wouldn't have an advertising budget if they didn't make money because of it. They don't spend money on advertising to lower their profits. That's just silly.

I kinda see why you aren't happy and stressed. You worry way too much about things that shouldn't matter.
 
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The CEO's total compensation at the company I work at was $3.5 million. 90% of this was due to incentives based on how the company performed. Do you think that is too high? I actually think it was a bargain. As an employee and a stockholder of companies where the CEOs make large sums, if they are worth their pay then I am fine with it.

By the way, AT&T wouldn't have an advertising budget if they didn't make money because of it. They don't spend money on advertising to lower their profits. That's just silly.

I kinda see why you aren't happy and stressed. You worry way too much about things that shouldn't matter.

Exactly. Complaining about the guy who succeeded is a waste of time - if you are unhappy with your position in life then work hard and change it.
 

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People think nothing about a football player making $10m a year to play a game.....yet it's shameful for the leader of a successful company that employees 1000's and makes good profits for shareholders to make that much
 

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Life is good here but you're right the cost of living is getting way out of hand.
 

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People think nothing about a football player making $10m a year to play a game.....yet it's shameful for the leader of a successful company that employees 1000's and makes good profits for shareholders to make that much
Great example!
 

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Life is good here but you're right the cost of living is getting way out of hand.

Exactly! I am still doing pretty good here too. But the more money I make, the more they take. I had a good year last year but sales are down this year
 

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The CEO's total compensation at the company I work at was $3.5 million. 90% of this was due to incentives based on how the company performed. Do you think that is too high? I actually think it was a bargain. As an employee and a stockholder of companies where the CEOs make large sums, if they are worth their pay then I am fine with it.

By the way, AT&T wouldn't have an advertising budget if they didn't make money because of it. They don't spend money on advertising to lower their profits. That's just silly.

I kinda see why you aren't happy and stressed. You worry way too much about things that shouldn't matter.

have to agree with this as well.
 

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The CEO's total compensation at the company I work at was $3.5 million. 90% of this was due to incentives based on how the company performed. Do you think that is too high? I actually think it was a bargain. As an employee and a stockholder of companies where the CEOs make large sums, if they are worth their pay then I am fine with it.

By the way, AT&T wouldn't have an advertising budget if they didn't make money because of it. They don't spend money on advertising to lower their profits. That's just silly.

I kinda see why you aren't happy and stressed. You worry way too much about things that shouldn't matter.

So can you really say you are coming from a unbiased opinion? Employee and stockholder? Yea I bet lots of Stockholders are happy.

I can believe there are a lot of Corporate defenders on here. Corporations own most every thing so there has been quite a bit of brainwashing through propaganda going on. Here is a bit of a history lesson. Some of you who read the business sections of Newspapers and/or business Newspapers like the Wallstreet Journal are already familiar with this history.
Back in the late 80s and 90s during boom times many Corporations decided that people were expendable commodities. Human beings that had families could be thrown away for the sake of Share holder profits. CEO's and managers who were good at getting rid of this dead weight were were paid handsomely. They called it getting rid of duplication in the workforce. What they were really doing is making joe six pack do the work of 2 people. They could work Joe harder and longer hours like a rented Mule. They got rid of people who have built up vacation time and were near retirement benefits. Top paid workers were out. Temp workers with no bennies were in. Forget that experienced workers led to better quality. So they hired Auditor firms who specialized in culling the herd. I have met some of these Auditors and they made big money traveling the Country recommending who to fire. So every week, you would read about a company letting go 100s and 1000s of workers Nationwide. A good many Economist and business people said they didn't think cutting workers for profits was a good idea in the long run. Anybody could seen a train wreck coming with so many people out of work. 100s of 1000s of people let go as it caught on with other companies.
Another part of the plan was to flee the country. As of 10 years ago there are 18,000+ US companies just over the Mexican border. They pay so bad that Mexicans still flee Mexico at record levels. There are US industrial parks in India and China. Then there is the subbing out jobs to these countries...
Don't be fooled. The main reason these Companies left is for cheap labor. Same with subbing out jobs to other countries. Poor slobs in other countries are lucky if they make $1 per hour. The good news is we save $10 to $20 per I-phone(some of you may have seen this in the news recently.
Temporary work force is still the way to go for many Companies in the US. We have many temp companies here. Lower wages and little or no bennies work great for Corporations so Temp agencies have thrived and Corporate profits remain at record levels.
This is just one piece of the puzzle that led to the Worldwide economic downturn. You have Wallstreet and Banks gambling going on. Bored with lots of Cash. Others peoples Cash that is. Banks making very risky investments and loans. 50 banks went under in Georgia in one year as one example. One bank in GA invested $Millions in a land buy out in the desert area of the west US, for example. That land never developed into anything. I bet many of you got notices in the mail that your Mortgage note had been sold and then sold again and again....Well these notes were being sold with no Insurance to back them--unknown to many investors. So when the economy and housing market started tanking the notes tanked. These were called "Credit Default Swaps" $16 Trillion dollars worth of bad notes worldwide. 60 minutes did a story on this a few years back. Hey people were being laid off and fired left and right by Corporations so who if left to pay the Mortgage and buy the houses???? IE see Audit train wreck coming in what I wrote earlier.
This all still goes on today. Not many have been punished. Corporations own everything so who is to stop them? There is some really good, caring , responsible Companies out there. Just a lot of hyper greedy ones.
Many Foreign companies have moved to the US to take up some of the slack(a good many hire temps) If it is so bad here then why are Foreign companies moving here? German company BMW invested $Billions in the US and have some of the highest paying jobs in the South although they have gone the temp route lately.
Ya just be happy to have a job. Maybe you and your wife put together can pay the rent and utilities. Most temp jobs only pay $9 to $10 per hour. Or you can go to College and pay $50,000 to $100,000 for a better paying job--how many people have been defaulting on these College loans lately? There is a list of Doctors who haven't even bothered to pay them off. Yea you or your parents have paid for a job. You are competing against the 17 million other people who are currently out of work and many of them have college degrees. The good news if that many of these companies will get rid of the higher paid near retirement workers and hire you.
This is the scary part. Many Hospitals are now taking the business approach of letting go highly qualified experienced workers for the lower paid, not near retirement, entry level worker. The Internet has made it possible for a lower paid Doctor in India to diagnose your X-rays
 

bruceb58

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All I can say is wow!!!! :facepalm:
 

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smile when you can, and when you can't, just grin like someone who farted, at least they'll leave you alone for a little while. LOL

I like it.
And as others have said, do your best, and don't sweat the rest. You can't always control what will come your way, but you CAN control your reaction to it. I know it's all easier said than done, but life is what you make of it. If you let too many things "stress you out", what's the point?
Fortunately, we all have boating to generate slices of very enjoyable life.
 
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I like it.
And as others have said, do your best, and don't sweat the rest. You can't always control what will come your way, but you CAN control your reaction to it. I know it's all easier said than done, but life is what you make of it. If you let too many things "stress you out", what's the point?
Fortunately, we all have boating to generate slices of very enjoyable life.

Amen to this. Being in my early 40s now, ive had plenty of ups and downs in life. I spent a lot of my 30s paying for the money mistakes I made in my twenties. Learn how to deal with what is important, if you dont have money, dont spend it. At least we can still go boating. Evn if it is only in a kayak at times. That is one place that is off the grid most of the time. Turn off the tv, and get away from the phone and spend time with your freinds and family, because that is what really matters!
 

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Funny about the transformation of TV. Back in the 60s we had 3 channels to choose from. TV went off the air at midnight. Big antennas bolted to the Chimney or bolted to the side of the house. Free TV with advertising One channel always came in worse than the others at my house. Now you have Satellite and Cable with 100s of channels. Cable started out with no advertising if I remember correctly. That was the sales pitch. Lots more channels with no ads. Now of course we have more ads than TV programming time or it seems that way and then you pay for it. Both started off at $35 per month in the mid 90s or before for Cable. Now they are up to $80+ monthly. Here is where the hyper Corporate greed kicks in--if you want the popular channels then you also have to get the channels not many would spend a minute watching. Now you could go down to basic cable or sat prices but then you are paying for what we had in the 60s for free. I tried to go down to less channels but that drove me nuts LOL. They put best programs in the higher priced packages. You're left with crap. They will find a way to take advantage of the situation. The thing that really PO's me is DTV offer all kinds of great deals to new signups--free DVRs--free NFL package but long time loyal customers get NO offers of free anything. Oh yea they offer you a free repeat movie every now and then
 
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Amen to this. Being in my early 40s now, ive had plenty of ups and downs in life. I spent a lot of my 30s paying for the money mistakes I made in my twenties. Learn how to deal with what is important, if you dont have money, dont spend it. At least we can still go boating. Evn if it is only in a kayak at times. That is one place that is off the grid most of the time. Turn off the tv, and get away from the phone and spend time with your freinds and family, because that is what really matters!

yep I use a kayak or a sailboat to get out there.
 

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stress usually comes from within. It is often self-induced. It can be unlearned. A good therapist can work wonders. Don't wait for a stroke or other health issue. Talk to a pro. Unfortunately, that business is hit and miss and getting a good counsellor sually requires a personal reference from someone who has been helped. (and men aren't likely to ask around)
Stress is caused by dysfunctional relationships, and loss of control in life. Not money, but money issues can be part and parcel of a stressful life.
Money empowers people, but it doesn't usually solve the loss-of-control issues that cause humans stress.
Adult bullying is real and one cause. People are hesitatant to say their spouse or a co-worker is the cause of their stress, so they blame the system or the dollar.
As Dr. Phil says, money never solves money problems.
 
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