Applying gel coat.. 101

[oops!]

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thinning ......no more than 10%.....

mekp......1.5-2.5%.

in fla.....i would go 2% unless it is over 70.

 

[CaptainD101]

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today was 85 degrees, dont mean to rub it in since im sure its still freezing in BC. Im still at work, ill post when I get home and let you guys know if it came out good or bad. Live and you learn

 

[Woodonglass]

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Well I sure hope you tell the Potential buyer how you applied the Gelcoat. Any one that knows anything about gelcoat application will not buy that boat if you're honest with them about how it was applied.

 

[proshadetree]

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This thread is worthless without pictures. Well not completely I just want to see some pics. Come on Cap don't keep me in suspense.

 

[Yacht Dr.]

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]This thread is worthless without pictures. Well not completely[/B] I just want to see some pics. Come on Cap don't keep me in suspense.

No..half of this thread is filled with Morals and conjecture .. halve truths and plagiarism ( uneducated plagiarism at that ).

Personal attacks against the OP.

Factoids that are not really fact at all.. just suggestions or hearsay .. completely discounting methods that are sound and true for those of us that have worked with these materials and had positive results.

Please dont tell somebody it is a 'Fact' that an application method does not work unless you KNOW it does not work.

Its almost like some are suggesting that I do not know what I have been doing for the past 20 YEARS ! " YD is wrong !! you CANT do that ! .. " welp.. I can do that.. IF you cant.. too bad for you. I can.

This post will probably get deleted.. just like some of my other recent posts on other threads ( without warning or a PM ).

YD.

PS. Please stop Deleting my post in other threads without at least a PM MODS !! kinda sucks ..

 

[CaptainD101]

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I posted the link of pics from photobucket. Will someone send me a link for posting pics on the site, its very diff. from other forums.

The paint job/ gelcoat job (what ever you want to call it) looks amazing, I dont care what you anal pro's got to say because its looks great feels great and confident its going to last for years to come. So far you guys are far off from the paint not bonding and that its going to be ruined. Cant wait to get this baby wet

 

[Yacht Dr.]

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I dont care what you anal pro's got to say because its looks great feels great and confident its going to last for years to come. So far you guys are far off from the paint not bonding and that its going to be ruined. Cant wait to get this baby wet

Well..seeing as how I am not into the 'buy and burn' forums .. good luck to you.

Buy a boat .. 'turn and burn' is the best selling novel of used boats now.

Good luck with the forums as you have already prospected how to buy and sell ( with out consideration ) ..

Im out- ...

YD.

 

[Woodonglass]

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I posted the link of pics from photobucket. Will someone send me a link for posting pics on the site, its very diff. from other forums.

The paint job/ gelcoat job (what ever you want to call it) looks amazing, I dont care what you anal pro's got to say because its looks great feels great and confident its going to last for years to come. So far you guys are far off from the paint not bonding and that its going to be ruined. Cant wait to get this baby wet

You come on the forum seeking advice about gelcoating. You get it. You do not follow it. You do your own thing. And then try to tell those that you sought the advice from that YOU know more than they do and they are ANAL and you will DO what YOU WANT! With an attitude like this you will get no further help from me and I hope from none of the other iBoat regulars. You seem to know all you need to know and don't need any advice from the "Anal PROS" so figure it out for yourself. I'm Done!

 

[Outback Jack]

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Well..seeing as how I am not into the 'buy and burn' forums .. good luck to you.

Buy a boat .. 'turn and burn' is the best selling novel of used boats now.

Good luck with the forums as you have already prospected how to buy and sell ( with out consideration ) ..

Im out- ...

YD.

That is exactly why I Looked for a boat that needed work rather then buy one from someone that makes it look good and has no experience working with fiberglass products. I figured a vinyl restore and gelcoat or paint before i even bought the boat.I have lot's of experience working with fiberglass but never knew much about the problems that can exist in boats and that is why I come here was to get advice from someone that has done it everyday and sees their repairs on the water 10 years later...I guess he will be a pro soon 2 more to go

Jack

 

[proshadetree]

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I saw that sign outside a church Its time to turn so you dont burn. Well I think the original poster might be doing a lot of that burning later in life.

 

[Cadwelder]

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I debated long and hard about posting this, and decided to go ahead.

I simply don't understand why you, CaptainD101, would even bother with starting a thread when you seem to have your mind made up already. This forum has the most experience anywhere on the web, bar none. No one here will give you bad advice and 90% are giving advice from experience which is by far the best there is.

The advice here is not some help line where a person reads a response from a book; it's experience talking, and most have better things to do than waste thier time helping somone that isn't going to listen at all. We are all here to help in anyway we can, but if your mind is made up already and you're not going to listen to any advice giving (even worse, bash the sound advice given) then please don't bother posting your questions in the future.

CW

 

[CaptainD101]

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Since my thread is still up, and I have just about finished with the hull completely, i would like to post some pics and comments of it before and after. I was posting this forum simply to get some simple advice which I have learned from working with this hands on. Honestly like I said im not looking for a professional job just a DIY. and thats what I got and looking to improve on the next job. Im not looking to get rich off flipping boats just get my money back and gain experience working with it, and cruise them on the river for some fun.. Thats not turn and burn. I have got nothing but compliments from neighbors and friends

Im looking for some power to put on this boat.. I just missed a sweet inline 4, checked out nicely but i hesitated on the purchase and the next guy took it. im also looking at a 1998 90hp force been sitting in a barn when I look under that hood looks like it had 50hrs and checks out mechanically but all scratched up outside( just not sure about force????)looks really easy to work on, ill post on this to the other forums

 

[Woodonglass]

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Remember posting this...

"The paint job/ gelcoat job (what ever you want to call it) looks amazing, I dont care what you anal pro's got to say because its looks great feels great and confident its going to last for years to come. So far you guys are far off from the paint not bonding and that its going to be ruined. Cant wait to get this baby wet"

IF the gelcoat is still on the boat next year, then the compliments will be warranted. Your methods were not sound, you did not follow the advice given and IMHO your comments to the those attempting to help and guide you were totally unethical.

 

[BillP]

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Gentlemen?
Wow, where does it say the op has to follow advice given here? He's free to listen or not and shouldn't get slammed for it. Lecturing him because he didn't do as you said...give me a break. Quite frankly its humorous to see self proclaimed know it alls getting their panties in a wad because someone doesn't take their advice as the holy fact. If it's so upsetting that you can't handle it, step back and check your egos.

Lovingly Yours,
Bill P.

 

[Yacht Dr.]

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Gentlemen?
Wow, where does it say the op has to follow advice given here? He's free to listen or not and shouldn't get slammed for it. Lecturing him because he didn't do as you said...give me a break. Quite frankly its humorous to see self proclaimed know it alls getting their panties in a wad because someone doesn't take their advice as the holy fact. If it's so upsetting that you can't handle it, step back and check your egos.

Lovingly Yours,
Bill P.

Read the whole Thread Bill .. there is More than just Not following advice.

Someone asked for suggestions .. we gave them..more questions .. we gave them.. ( a small part of unethical tool replacement as well ) ..

Now..we have NO pics .. NO how it was done .. just thanks for the advice but "screw you to anyone that had anything bad to say about how its done".

BTW .. some of us are not Self Proclaimed know it alls .. some of us Actually KNOW .

Since my thread is still up, and I have just about finished with the hull completely, i would like to post some pics and comments of it before and after. I was posting this forum simply to get some simple advice which I have learned from working with this hands on. Honestly like I said im not looking for a professional job just a DIY. and thats what I got and looking to improve on the next job. Im not looking to get rich off flipping boats just get my money back and gain experience working with it, and cruise them on the river for some fun.. Thats not turn and burn. I have got nothing but compliments from neighbors and friends

Honestly .. The prep and application method of ANY material is KEY.
Now if Honestly your NOT going to Prep the substrate or apply the material correctly .. then Why would we want to help you ?

You are talking Gelcoat .. which is just prep/mask/spray/sand/buff. If you Do NOT want your gel to look 'professional' then it means that you dont want to do the sanding/buffing steps ( After you correctly applied gel your 'pro' look is only determined by sanding and buffing .. its NOT PAINT ! ) .. but we told you this.

Now if it was Paint .. we "self proclaimed experts" would tell you the same thing.. PREP !!

After the Prep .. its materials,tools and knowledge .. .. there is Nothing aside from that that would be required to have a 'pro' finish. .. .. but you should have a Pro Prep .. 'Proper Prep'.

Remember posting this...

"The paint job/ gelcoat job (what ever you want to call it) looks amazing, I dont care what you anal pro's got to say because its looks great feels great and confident its going to last for years to come. So far you guys are far off from the paint not bonding and that its going to be ruined. Cant wait to get this baby wet".

Im an anal pro ..

YD.

 

[oops!]

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hi guys.......

this thread is now closed !

for many rule violations.......i dont need to send pm's....

this is not the iboats spirit !

the iboats spirit is to help with a question. not attack an answer or to attack the posters motives.

you have never seen me respond like this....lets just say.....im a little miffed

ward

 

[oops!]

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to the op.....


im sorry this got out of line....

i will post a gellcoating thread 101 soon....

that will answer all your questions, and any mis information you may have received form other sources.

it is important to remember that, pigmented polyseter resin (gellcoat) has rules.
its not like thinning paint.

gellcoat has physical properties.....and if you mess with them. you weaken the molecular structure of the gellcoat.

people think as long as the gellcoat gets hard and is shiney, that gellcoat is good....
not so. paint does that.
but boats live in a different world than cars...
they live in a world that bangs the dock every 5 seconds when at rest, and lives in a hurricane the rest of its life. in fact, the only time a boat lives like a car is when its on the trailer !

that is why gellcoat is such a different thing than paint, and if applied incorrectly, it will chip, craze, and generally be a mess in just a short while.

iboats is made up of a bunch of people who want to make a boat right, not just for the current user or to the guy who buys it 2 month later. But for the the guy who wants to know how to apply the gellcoat, resin or gluvut properly, so there is no compromising the integrity of the application in a few months.

this is boat university......

the information given by people who have been there done that, is invaluable.
and worthy of being repeated.