Becoming a spray painter?

[Yacht Dr.]

Re: Becoming a spray painter?

"Even watched a couple of vids on how to put up a home made spray booth. Might be something to think about in the future also."

Careful with those bigger sealed homemade booths and auto paints....can go kaboom..unless you want to spring for some explosion proof lights and fans...most dont blow up, but some do...and without supplied air, ppl pass out in them when painting alone.

Kaboom ? ... never heard of that before. ?

Back on track .. the OP wants to use Rusto and to the way its thinned and sprayed .. eventually finished.

I dont think Rusto is going to sell a product where a Kaboom is going to happen ..

Sure PPE is already stated ..

YD.

 

[zool]

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"Careful with those bigger sealed homemade booths and auto paints"

You should probably read a little more carefully YD, or tighten your PPE

And the respirator hes using now is not supplied air, IIRC

 

[zool]

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The Dangers of Creating a Home-made Spraybooth

again, just sayin..since were all about safety here...

 

[matt167]

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Whenever I've sprayed rustoleum, I always break the rules and go straight mineral spirits. The one time that I followed the can and used acetone, it was a complete faliure. I also always use hardener because with the humidity here, it can take days to dry without it ( just remember the PPE, Iso's are deadly )

 

[bonz_d]

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Great point about the booth. With all the safety training I've had over the years I need to give myself a big DUH!!! Years ago the company I worked for moved into a new building, there was a room built to mix powders, because this was new construction it had to meet code. Everything had to be explosion proof and the exterior wall also had to have an explosion panel. This job was also my 1st experience with a full face respirator.

Guess I got over excited by watching and didn't even think about kabooms or other nasty things. So what's the best ways to keep down bugs and dust when spraying when one doesn't have a booth? Again for now will only be using Rusto and one part marine paint.

 

[zool]

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If youre not using 2k products, there is little risk...but you mentioned watching the HOK vids and getting the picture on auto finishes, so i was just giving a heads up, and some general info to others watching that will use the products ive promoted here...AU is a 2 part system.

If youre in a garage, i drape plastic on the walls for overspray, and clear plastic on the ceiling, below the lights, i keep the doors open, and wet the floor...

in the end, in a diy environment, trash in the paint happens....a springtime spray keeps the bugs to a minimum.

 

[bonz_d]

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Thanks zool, I bet it's beginning to look like I'm getting scatter brained but there is just so much out there to learn and read. Really not trying to get ahead of myself but to be honest I haven't been this excited about doing something new for a long time. I'll try to stay focused!

Kinda like welding. I can tell an artist when I see one yet I can't do it. Don't have the eyes for it. Watching the guys at work weld stainless sheet or tube with sanitary welds leaves me amazed.

 

[zool]

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I understand the motivation completely, painting has the highest payout reward at the end of a tedius process...eyecandy

I have zero motivation to go out there and finish my glass grinding, but i have to in order to paint it, its the dangling carrot that keeps me going...

Welding i hate, but another necessary evil...that ive never mastered, thank god they invented "filler":facepalm:

 

[Woodonglass]

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I "Plasticized" my garage to shoot my boat. Set two box fans under the garage door and closed it down on em. Worked good for me.

 

[bonz_d]

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Mornin,

Wood and zool that's kinda what I was thinking. Plastic on the ceiling to keep crud from falling and then maybe two sides to help keep the bugs out and then maybe hosing down the floor and letting it dry before I try to paint the boat.

While watching some of those videos there were a couple were they had paint fliing everywhere. One you almost couldn't see the guy about halfway through. Yikes!!!!

 

[Woodonglass]

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Yeah, it'll fog up pretty quick if you don't have something to suck out the overspray. That's why I used the cheap box fans I bought @ garage sales for a buck a piece. I kept my floor wet so the paint didn't stick to it. Hosed it down and started shooting paint.

 

[RufNutt]

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Mornin,

Plastic on the ceiling to keep crud from falling and then maybe two sides to help keep the bugs out and then maybe hosing down the floor and letting it dry before I try to paint the boat.

While watching some of those videos there were a couple were they had paint fliing everywhere. One you almost couldn't see the guy about halfway through. Yikes!!!!

Biggest thing is to keep the floor damp while painting, keeps the dust down. Also before you hang the plastic go through your shop with a leaf blower . It will knock all the dust down. Also like Wood did is put a couple fans in the door way to draw the air out or push it in. Some people like positive pressure booths and some negative. I was told just to keep the air moving. Some people even add an inlet filter at the other end with a fan and use filters out the bottom of your garage doors to let the air out. I would like to set up a system that sucks air out with a fan. That way I am not forcing dust into the booth. There are a lot of good ideas on the internet and they do work ok for the job . I have seen some nice paint jobs come out of backyard set ups. Safety is the biggest thing and a good fan set up is an old furnace blower drawing the air out .

 

[bonz_d]

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Wouldn't keeping the floor wet add humidity and effect drying?

I was also thinking 2 fans with pleated filters only one blowing in and the other blowing out so as to not create a negative pressure. With the filters not so much to catch the overspray but more as a bug barrier.

 

[Woodonglass]

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I have a 20 foot garage door. I had 2 18" fans sitting under the door. Now that I think back I also had a fan in the side door of the garage pullin in air too! That left 17 feet by 2 feet of open area to allow air from the outside into the garage as the fans pulled out the fog!! By the time I was done shooting each coat the floor was almost dry. No problems with humidity. I sprayed early in the morning with temps in the mid 80's. Boat was on a cradle so as soon as I was done, I pulled her out into the driveway into direct sunlight and let the sun Bake the finish until that evening when I'd pull her back in, give her a bath of cool water, 3M scotchbrite her down while she was wet to knock off any nubs in the paint, then wiped her down with a damp 50/50 mix of MS/Acetone wet the floor back down and then shot another coat.

 

[bonz_d]

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Thanks Wood that's good to know.

My garage is only a 1.5 car but is extra deep. My thinking was to plastic the ceiling then plastic the side were the bench and other tools are and then plastic the deep end to keep the spray out of that area. I have 2 doors that I could put fans in along with the overhead door. I suppose I could build a screen panel to put under the overhead. I even thought about a power vent roof fan as they are not to expensive.

Biggest problem I see right away is that I have limited electric power to the garage. Barely runs the compressor.

 

[Woodonglass]

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Yeah, I did not have that problem. Wheres your Breaker Box. You might could put in a separate circuit if the box is close enuf.

 

[bonz_d]

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The electric service to the garage was the main contributor to the compressor and spray gun I bought. There is only a 20amp overhead line going to the garage and it's 120' from the panel to the garage. So now the debate with the Wife and myself is do I run a new underground subpanel now or do I wait for the new garage? Especially after just having dropped $5500.00 on having 3 trees removed.

 

[Woodonglass]

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Oh Boy!!! I See your DEEEEEE lima!!!!! 150 ft of romex to run a temporary circuit is about all I could think of. Prolly not what you'd want to do.

 

[73Chrysler105]

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150' extension cord on a separate circuit for the box fans only and your good

 

[bonz_d]

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Well I have already sourced out the cable to run underground. Either a 40amp or 30amp sub panel at a cost of about $200.00 to $250.00 depending on the cable, next would be to rent a ditchwitch to run the trench. But again the question becomes do I do it now or wait till next year with a new garage to go with it.

Suprisingly romex is the same cost as the direct burial cable in the same size.