Boating Class

LuvBoating

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Have you or would you take a boating class? We have one here called ABS (About Boating Safety) Class put on by the USCGA. It is $25 and is all day on a Saturday.
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paultjohnson

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I did it, its worth while INMO. some of the stuff didn't pertain to my boating, but most did. I say do it, also my insurance comp ... State Farm , gives me a 10% annual disc on my boat owners policy for completing it as well
 

NYBo

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It's a good, basic boating course. It's better than online courses because you can ask questions of real, live instructors.
 

Chris-R

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I've been boating for around 25 or 30 years and have taken a class or two back in the mid 1980's. I took my 12 year old son to this class last winter. Not only did he learn a lot but I learned a few things too. It was well worth taking.
 

LuvBoating

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Even though I asked, we have been to two classes. The first class was in May of '09, but at that time we really had no intention of going on any ICW's here for a few years. We were only interested in the St John's River, of which that class covered very little of. But, for the first time, we went on the ICW in Daytona area this past May and liked it. We had a couple with us that had spent a lot of time on the ICW there and that helped us while out there. Anyway, we wanted to take the class again due to our interest in the ICW now. This class was good, but they packed a whole lot into an 8 hr class and that's a lot of stuff to learn/remember for older folks.......like us in our early 60's.
One thing I do have to mention about both of these classes, there were two very controversial subjects that were brought up/talked about: having a firearm onboard and wearing lifejackets. Another controversial topic was drinking while boating. It really doesn't appear that anybody in the USCGA drinks alcohol, so thats is what they push in boating. As for us, we always have a cooler with beer in it. We have a few, but don't get smashed drinking and then drive a boat.

As far as the firearm issue goes: We don't have a firearm onboard our boat, but there was a boating tv program that had a rep from a rifle/shotgun manufacturer discussing and showing those firearms onboard small craft boats and why some boaters have them on their boats. I did notice that the Instructors (USCGA) really didn't want to talk about it.
As far as the lifejacket issue goes: the USCGA persists on everyone wearing a lifejacket at all times when on a boat. We have them onboard, but don't wear them and we see very few-to-no boaters actually wearing them.
 

theteacher

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Wife and I are taking a class next Tuesday. Looking forward to it.
 

theteacher

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Raleigh Sail and Power Squadron
Safe Boating & Skills Course
Location: American Red Cross Building, 100 Peartree Lane
Textbook: America?s Boating Course, 3rd Edition
Cost: $50 (includes textbook and exam)

The above is what I'm taking. I had a boat years ago, up north on lakes. We're now in North Carolina and just bought the 220CX and want to gain info/knowledge quick. What better way than a course?
We were on the ICW this weekend and I'm lost as to who has the right of way and a WHOLE LOT of other stuff. I don't want to be the cause of an accident or mishap. For $60.00, including text and tests, it's cheap in my opinion. That's for the wife and I both to attend 8 classes, a text book, and 2 tests.
 

NYBo

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One thing I do have to mention about both of these classes, there were two very controversial subjects that were brought up/talked about: having a firearm onboard and wearing lifejackets. Another controversial topic was drinking while boating. It really doesn't appear that anybody in the USCGA drinks alcohol, so thats is what they push in boating. As for us, we always have a cooler with beer in it. We have a few, but don't get smashed drinking and then drive a boat.

As far as the firearm issue goes: We don't have a firearm onboard our boat, but there was a boating tv program that had a rep from a rifle/shotgun manufacturer discussing and showing those firearms onboard small craft boats and why some boaters have them on their boats. I did notice that the Instructors (USCGA) really didn't want to talk about it.
As far as the lifejacket issue goes: the USCGA persists on everyone wearing a lifejacket at all times when on a boat. We have them onboard, but don't wear them and we see very few-to-no boaters actually wearing them.
That would be three "controversial" subjects. :)

1. BUI: Same penalties as DUI in many jurisdictions, and for good reason. It often takes very little alcohol to be measurably impaired on the water due to the effects of the sun, constant noise and vibration from the boat, etc. BTW, lots of us in the Auxiliary drink alcohol, myself included; we just don't do it while at the helm.

2. Firearms aboard: Not touching that one with a ten-foot-boathook. But don't expect to be treated kindly if you have a firearm aboard and fail to tell any law enforcement officer about it up front if you are ever boarded.

3. Wearing PFDs: A PFD draped over your seat or in the cabin doesn't do you a lot of good if you fall overboard, especially if you conk your head and become unconscious. It's a matter of common sense. I strongly recommend donning your PFD during heavy weather, at night, and while docking, at a minimum. Since you are in Florida, I imagine a standard PFD is too hot and bulky for extended wear. If that's your main reason not to wear one, check out an inflatable PFDs here. In the end, you makes your choice and you takes your chances, as the saying goes.
 

theteacher

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I thought they said in my ccw class that it was against the law to carry on a boat? I'm in North Carolina, I'll need to search this answer out. Anyone here know FOR SURE ?
 

spdracr39

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My understanding in Arkansas ccw class was it was only against state park regulations but ok for federal parks and waterways.
 

Woodnaut

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Back in the '70s when I was in high school I took a boating course from the USPS. It was awesome and I loved it. I thought dead recoking was just about the coolest thing on earth. There were many nights I fell asleep reading Piloting, Seamanship and Small Boat Handling. (Somehow I ended up in a maratime academy not long after that. Go figure. :rolleyes:) Since then I've been a real proponet of boating courses although I'm sure some are much better than others. Taking a boating course is quite simply "learning things the easy way" (as opposed to learning the hard way). Learning the easy way is almost always better. :)

Not meaning to promote a hijack, but regarding the three controversial subjects, NYB has it right: BUI is the same as DUI around here, and if you have a firearm aboard you had better declare it immediatly to law enforcement if stopped. (Some folks along the coast only carry when heading offshore.) And we always - and let me stress always as in 100% without ANY exceptions - wear PFDs at all times. A good quality inflatable is lightweight and really isn't hot.
 

cribber

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Everyone should take a Boater's Safety Course at least once. The dealer who I got my boat from paid for the course with our local USPS here on the Harris Chain. Plus now I'm certified to use my boat in any other state that has a reciprocal agreement.
 

LuvBoating

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We got our Florida Boating Education ID Card yesterday in the mail. This, as with the Certificate the Auxiliary printed out for us at the class is worth WHAT? Yes, a person can get a small discount on their boat insurance, but ours was for only one month. One of the instructors told me that we could get a 10% discount from West Marine if we show them the ID card we just got in the mail, but that remains to be seen. Other than the one-time insurance discount and possibly store discount, the ID card and Certificate are basically nothing, except in a person's mind! If the ID is kept in a wallet, who/why would a person show it? What's a person going to do with the Certificate?
 

paultjohnson

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I took the class 20 yrs ago, State Farm gives me the 10% every year. I have my little wallet certificate in my little on board document packet along with my insurance card, boat registration, and a photo copy of my drivers license. I figure if Mr. Law stops me for sumtn, I can hand him the whole works, maybe buy me some brownie points.
 

shrew

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To my knowledge, possesion and transportation of firearms on a vessel (CCW or otherwise) is dictated by the state jurisdiction for the body of water the vessel is operating on. I did some digging on CG regulations and couldn't find any. Typically the boating courses address the specific regulations of the state where the boating class and cert is being issued. I suspect that the firearms discussion was specific to that states regulations.

Regarding PFD's, this is like wearing seatbelts. Follow the laws for the state as well. Choice to wear one, if not compelled by local legislation to do so, is a personal choice. The Coast Guard is always going to emphasize use at all times. Keep in mind these are the guys who more frequently are fishing bodies out of the water. I would be surprised to hear anyone in the CG downplay PFD's.

BUI/BWI is like DUI/DWI. Drinking and being drunk are two decidedly different things. Prudence would dictate that it be minimal, if at all. Again, you're never going to hear teh CG or LEO's say "Drinking?? Go For It???"

Honestly, in regards to PFD's and alcohol, nobody can be surprised about any CG or LEO's position on these topics. Verify the laws for the body of water where you're boating and adhere to them. Use common sense.

yes, a boating course is worth it. IMHO it should be mandatory for all. I see FAR to many boaters who have absolutely no idea about the concepts of navigation, safe boating and 'rules of the road'. If I had a dollar for everytime I was the stand-on vessel and still had to give way to an oblivious boater, i'd be in a yacht by now.
 

theteacher

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Well, we started boating safety class last night. It will be a wealth of knowledge and it's better than taking it on line as you can stop the instructor and ask questions, topic related or something else you just want an answer to.
 

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take as many boating courses as you can.....power squadren has more advances classes as the next step
 

theteacher

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One of my students asked me today if I'm going to become a captain ?
 

EddiePetty

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Here in Virginia, Bass Pro offers the USCG approved classes FREE of charge...reservations required.
 
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