Re: Bush finally gets it!
Plywoody, I really hate to see you get slammed by what appears to be every user on this site, including myself. I want appologise for letting my ire rule my pen, and will do everything I can to refrain from namecalling. You have every God-given right to the same freedoms as any other human being. The dessent thing is a bit much, but you have the right to express your opinions.<br /><br /> But I gota go here; I like beer.<br /><br />quotePlywoody..."<br />It might be a more effective debating tool to point out where I might be in error, however.<br />Oh, and use some evidence and facts this time. For example, To say that Saddam has the "means and opportunity" doesn't cut it. What are the means and where was the opportunity?<br />He had no weapons, and even if he had, he had no means of delivering them, for example. He was boxed in in a no fly zone, and couldn't have flown a paper plane out of it.<br />Oh, and you can say that, hey, he hid the weapons from us. Again with no evidence whatsoever. But for the moment, let's say he did, and they are easily portable. So now in the country we have terrorists of every color streaming in and out of that country seemingly unchecked. I guess they could be hauling these wmd's out of the country to keep us from finding them. How again did this achieve any of our supposed goals, and make us safer than we were?"<br />(end Plywoody quote)<br />This is allways attempted, but does not werk with you. It never has. You make charge after charge,<br />AGAINST the United states, centered on the President whom you seem to have a deep, transparant hatered for, allong with his administration. It trolls many here into replying in an attempt to defend thier country or thier <br />Commander in Chief. At least, I feel complled to defend it (let me just speak for me here).<br /><br />It has been pointred out where your acusations were blatently false, with links to the facts, and you never attempt to detract ,just distrract. You claim Bush is taking us into the breach for such rot as to make his VP rich, yet Chenny sold all his stock and interests in Haliburton, AT THE TIME OF HIS ELLECTION. That does NOT matter to you. The fact that he was a major stockholder, and that Bush's family had all kinds of interest in oil, is your reasoning of why he sent our military into Iraq. I'm so sick of typing this reply, I'm comitting it to notepad for future reference..But you asked for facts, as tho you were unaware of them, and so, I am obligated to explain it again. The war on terror will be won. You cannot stop us. Your attempts at turning this into a quagmire will fail utterly. And you allready know why. The fact that there are two fronts is of little concern, except in how stretched the supporting dollar and the armed forces are. If we had the recsourses, trust me---we would be in Sirria, NK, Iran, Libya, Africa and many other terrorist lairs at the same time (which is now). This is because the war on terrorism is a war. Bush said it will be a long, costly war, with as many fronts as there are agencies of those who would fund, harbor, train or equip such groups to attack us. Yet you ignore this repetedly!<br />You ask for evidence? Where the hell have you been exactly for the past two years?! You Can't be serious!<br />* Even the Clinton Clan had proof positive that sadamn had WMD.<br />* Even Isreali intel had proof positive that sadamn had WMD.<br />* The only evidence left is to release them over our heads! They Exist. Is this what it will take?<br />* The problem is going to be finding them before they ARE released, Plywoody!<br />* Terorist traning camps in Tekrit and elsewhere.<br />* Mass graves. Kurds, Sheites, and even Baath party members.<br />* underground prison complexes, and torture chambers with blood DNA linked to US soldiers.<br />* And other blood, sources : unknown.<br />* Arsenals of warheads capable of delivering biological or field nukes in four different sites!<br />* This doesn't take into account what he had 4 months to move. Any moron would've moved them, but<br /> he just moved the worst of it, so far.<br />* Alqueda Training tapes found in several locations.<br />* Known Alqueda operatives now arrested and in custody in Iraq after attacking US troops...some <br />even claiming "American citizenship"!!<br />* He used WMD on his own people in 1989 , and attempted racial genocide with it! Where were you?<br />Turn back around, and look at what your proponent has done to his own countrymen!<br />* He had entire flight wings of the best soviet fighters money could buy, burried in the sand. Why?<br /> Because of the no fly zone? He had 4 months from our insistance to honor the resolution, to disclose them,<br /> yet he faiiled.He could've, we would know, and have left them there, had he complied,but noooooo!<br />Why did he do that? He had a dang good reasons for not complying. <br />* First, it took him 11 years to reaquire them! <br />* And he thought we would let the UN, France and Germany in particular, in his pocket big time with the <br />"food for oil" scam ,keep the United States at bay long enough to burry it until the UN apeased us.He really thought he could get world opinion on his side, and your media was well on it's way to convert us. They are loosing, but still trying. Thier daily bombarment of distraction from the rebuilding going on over there is easily breached, yet they are relentless on the CBS evening news. You saw this happen on nightly TV, before your eyes, yet, your media has done it's job, hasn't it? YOU ARE CONVINCED.<br /><br />* The busloads of terrorists are entering Iraq, and I say great. Bring them on. Let's get rid of the mutants there and now! Better there, where we are deployed, then where we are not yet deployed.<br />Keep em commin, Plywoody. It narrows-down the fronts to a manageable number. lol.<br /> <br />quote;Plywoody <br />"Oh, and I love the socialist communist and whatever else you threw in there diatribe. Where did that come from? I suspect the theory is if you cannot find concrete things to disagree and debate, you can always simply make up things as you go along. go ahead, if you want to, but it still is not a very effective debating tool... "(end plywoody quote).<br /><br />I can explain this. It's because of your anti-capitalist postings such as "Bush's big oil friends"....Haliburton this, and Cheney that. Then there's what you do not complain about, that speaks volumes...Like No mention of the proposed 400BILLION Dollar spending package to institute a socialised prescription medicine give-away, while whining about 87BILLION/87BILLION OMG! This rubber-stamps yer forehead, "Socialist" my friend. The commy thing is a bit of a stretch, but most communists are socialists as most Capitalists are Free. So the commy thing just kind of ooozes-out .Sorry about that...The commy thing, that is. What price for Freedom, Plywoody? 87Biilion +75 Billion? I say, <br />not bad and I like beer.
"How could anyone be so small minded, and out in another world?" you ask Nosleep. Beats me too, but those are the typical sentiments of the typical democrat these days. I think he's for real, but would get a hoot if he unzipped his skin to reveal he is actually GW himself pulling all our legs. 
