Calling Experts, Hull damage/repair (PHOTOS)

[25thmustang]

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[25thmustang]

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[Friscoboater]

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I am no expert, but it looks like the boat had a bottom impact. Dropped, impact on bottom etc. Maybe fallen off the dry dock supports?The keel would have pushed the bulkheads put and caused the cracks. Just my opinion.

 

[25thmustang]

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[Art Bernard]

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With the ammount of damage and it's wide spread nature, I would give her a thourough inspection top to bottom, fore to aft. To repair all that damage is going to be a bear, esspecially with bulkheads involved but it can be done though I hope you have deep pockets and allot of time. I know I can't give you a step by step proceedure (one of the old salts here might be able to) but your going to have to do allot of cutting out and removing the damaged sections, than make patches to fill the holes in braced inside and out as well as tying it back into the bulkheads. Honestly, if you're not used to doing glass work, this is something I would seek professional help with. If it was just fixing a hole it would be relatively easy, but with the damage involving bulkheads and maybe the bottom I'm not qualified to give you a plan to follow. Now if it was a metal boat, no prob as I'm an ex-navy welder/shipfitter and have done allot of structural repairs to the big girls, but glass is a differant animal. Sorry I couldn't be more help, but whatever you do proceed carefully.

Art

 

[25thmustang]

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[Friscoboater]

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I would really check out that boat for other damage. I am betting on an impact.

 

[Yacht Dr.]

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Hello Mustang..

I personally see No "cracks" in the gelcoat ..

I see some something in the pics that IMO is Not possible ..

Unless someone somehow covered up them Big Hard point cracks up very good with Something ..

I still dont see any cracks .. I see Raised gelcoat and some kind embossed/lethegraphic repair pic without actual Cracking is again (IMO) not possible for this type of repair ( there is no visual cracks in the pics ).

YD.

PS. its just in the pics that I see..

 

[25thmustang]

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[25thmustang]

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[Yacht Dr.]

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Yacht Dr., thank you for coming in here as I am told you are the person to speak to on Iboats.

First off..I want to reiterate what I have said in the past .. I am Not the " person " to talk to here on Iboats. Its a Very large (Specialty) group of members that have Vast experience in repairs and knowledge ( this thread has just caught my attention ) . Although I am very good at what I do .. I am Not the "goto guy" here at Iboats .. I appreciate and accept the vote of confidence.

Now then..

Im just saying from your pics they dont add up..

Yes its the same repair .. its a Pressure point on the inside .. Your going to have to grind and glass the outside only.

But you must relieve the pressure points on the inside so it does not happen again.

YD.

PS. I noticed you put up more pics.. I will look at them now..

 

[25thmustang]

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[Yacht Dr.]

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It seems we are posting at the same time lol..

As I said above .. those cracks are coming from the inside.. as you found out..

You will have to grind and glass those fractures ( not stress cracks ) from the outside.

Lucky you its only repairs on the outside.

The Inside .. you Must get that wood Off of any hard contact points on the the hull !

We can address the FG stage later..

As far as "companies" would allow that..its not the company..its the labor force that is available building a boat at that time ..

YD.

 

[Friscoboater]

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Yacht doc has a point. It did come from the inside and I wonder if it is coming from wood touching the hull and causing a "hard spot"

 

[25thmustang]

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[Bob_VT]

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DUMB question/guess........ if the deck and stringer's are letting go from rot or failure that would allow the inside to collapse and create those marks....... common on boats with a walk through windshield (does not fit) when the deck/stringer's fail???

 

[25thmustang]

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[emoney]

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Let me stipulate by saying, I know I don't have a dog in this hunt, nor would i ever be mistaken for a person to ask for advice in this arena. I'm just trying to learn as I go here, and this thread is peaking my interest. So, having said all that (I'm a tad long winded, too), it seems to me like the "repair" is going to be gelcoat related, and will just require taking out the bad and putting in the good, as it pertains to the gelcoat.....right? And lastly, since I've seen so many debates about 'pour-in-foam' and since you hinted towards foam earlier, is there any chance that foam could've contributed to this problem. Seems like that size of a boat would've had to take a very significant 'fall', as has been suggested, and that there would be evidence in other places than these, if that did in fact occur.

Just curious and if I'm distracting from the subject at hand, then please ignore me (my wife does daily so I'm very used to it)

 

[25thmustang]

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[dodgeramsst2003]

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Well I'm definitely no expert, but as others have noted it looks like the inside bulkheads have broken loose and everytime the boat hit a wave they banged into the sides and caused the damage you see in the gelcoat. I have had several boats, and while I've never seen that type of damage before, I know some of my boats have had an amazing amount of flex when hitting waves. I always thought my SR Seville was going to come apart on lake erie, but it never did. If it were me and again I'm no expert, I would fix the inside first (glass the bulkheads back into place) and then run it. keep a close eye on the outside damage, if it doesn't get any worse you have found the problem and you can then fix the gelcoat cracks.... if it continues to get worse on the outside then you have a bigger issue and need to find a professional to help. I suspect that the PO got nervous about the damage, didn't know what to do and decided to offload the boat at a price that someone couldn't pass up.