e tec.

[anglerss]

I'm looking to purchasing a new evinrude 60hp e tec. I have had a couple of people tell me to stay away from them , they are junk. looking for any info on these motors.

 

[tashasdaddy]

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Welcome to iboats. i've only heard good things about them. great warranty, 3 years no service, no break in period.

 

[HighTrim]

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Everyone will have their own opinion, like Chevy or Ford. They do have quite a list of pros though.

What TD said is correct, and that's just the start. The E-TEC engines use an exclusive low friction design. There are no belts, no chains, no powerhead gears, no cams, and no mechanized oil pumps. That being said, when you consider the fact that the 2-stroke E-TEC produces a power stroke every revolution and it doesn't have the added complexity of all of the belts, camshafts, valves, timing chains and oil pumps that add weight and rob power and torque it's easy to understand why they are said to have more power and performance.

If you are interested in the environment, they are also fairly eco friendly. With their fully stratified combustion system, E-TEC's are designed to comply with 2006 EPA (Environmental Protection Agency and the 2008 CARB (California Air Resource Board) 3-Star emissions rating, and dont smoke.

I would buy one, but have always been Jonnie/Rude biased.

 

[ezeke]

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I just attended the Providence RI boat show and the E-TEC motors were well represented.

These boats are shown by dealerships which are in business to make money in a very competitive market.

I don't think that they want their reputations tarnished by "junk" and, I think that they are in the position of really knowing what is and what is not "junk".

The New England Boat Show will start tomorrow in Boston with over 1,000 fully rigged boats on display. I'll let you know what I see there.
http://www.naexpo.com/boatshow/flash_hompage.html

 

[rickdb1boat]

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I don't recall him asking about 4-strokes. Personally, I would be a bit nervous buying one and I've been a huge Johnny/Rude fan for years. Just not enough info in on longevity and the higher HP models have had more than their fair share of problems. But on a high note, I really haven't seen any bad reports on the smaller HP ones....

 

[tjl76evinrude]

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correct me if im wrong, but its not about being a johnny/rude fan, its a BRP thing.

i dont think any outboards are "crap", especially recent motors. they seem to be varying levels of good to great.

i like my old motor but the new ones sure are nice.

 

[johnrude]

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I'm looking to purchasing a new evinrude 60hp e tec. I have had a couple of people tell me to stay away from them , they are junk. looking for any info on these motors.

These engines have been out since 2004. The only had one recall and that was for a fuel filter. Now with the 2008's they are NMEA 2000 ready. There are very few problems with these engines. Why are they calling them junk? What problems are they having with them.

 

[tashasdaddy]

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true brp owns them, but they will always be JohnnyRudes. they weren't OMC's.

 

[HighTrim]

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The New England Boat Show will start tomorrow in Boston with over 1,000 fully rigged boats on display. I'll let you know what I see there.
http://www.naexpo.com/boatshow/flash_hompage.html

I too am attending a large boat show tomorrow, only the Canadian version in Toronto Ontario. Should be exciting

 

[dukboat]

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According to the Evinrude web site they have a 5 year waranty. If you take care of it you should have no problems with it. A few of the guys I fish with have the 150's and they love them, no one has had any problems. Plus they say there more fuel efficent then the older motors and they don't smoke.

 

[steelespike]

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Go to the brp site and check out the many performance reports
Then check the other outboard performance reports.
Take all salesmen info with a grain of salt unless seen in writing,including the Etec guys.Etec has no scheduled maintenance for 3 years or 300 hours.
The 40,50 and 60 etecs are the same basic motor.all weigh in at 240lbs.It appears the 60 is the most efficient design.Generally producing GPH rating signifigantly below the 10% of hp rule.While the 40 hp tends to run slightly above the 10% figure.
When driven at reduced speeds the 60 can produce mpg figures
very close to that of the 40.

 

[wilde1j]

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I must be stupid ... I bought two 175's. They start instantly at 480 RPM like they've been running for hours, they are quiet, very good on fuel, lighter than 4S equivalents, fast to plane, use very little oil, have very high charging outputs, very low user maintenance, 300 hour plug life (guaranteed), low emissions, superior fuel injection technology, etc. I guess they must lack something really important and are crap. BTW, I've got ~ 100 hours on both without a single hiccup or required service call, other than several no charge MAP firmware upgrades. I guess I need to shop more carefully next time.

 

[samo_ott]

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Lemme get this right, the 40hp Etec weighs 240 lbs? That's over double the older 40's! I'm sure they are way more fuel efficient, but sure not in the weight dept!

 

[jay_merrill]

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I am an old motor guy but am intrigued by the ETec motors. I might or might not buy one - haven't really made up my mind.

One thing that I would say, though, is that 100 problem free hours doesn't impress me. I have old Johnsons that I have run 100 hours in ten days. In fact, when I see classified adds for motors being sold that say things like "only 250 hours" and the motor is 5 years old, I just smile. Imagine that - people paying ten to fifteen thousand dollars (and more) for engines that they run 50 hours per year!

Maybe I will keep my '72 65hp Johnson after all!

 

[samo_ott]

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Heh... well said Jay... Long live the classic outboard I can't believe a 40 would weigh 240 lbs when a 1960 Johnson 40 weighed 129 lbs... (the first year they made em)

 

[steelespike]

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Heh... well said Jay... Long live the classic outboard I can't believe a 40 would weigh 240 lbs when a 1960 Johnson 40 weighed 129 lbs... (the first year they made em)

Talking about weight:: the old "Fat Fifty"we always refer to as really heavy weighed 197lbs when introduced.And I believe when it became the 75 it was 216lbs.The 3 cylinder 75 Etec is 320lbs so is the 90.The 40,50 and 60 are based on a 52 cu in power head.The Etec is not overly heavy by todays standards.

 

[wilde1j]

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Lemme get this right, the 40hp Etec weighs 240 lbs? That's over double the older 40's! I'm sure they are way more fuel efficient, but sure not in the weight dept!

I was clearly referring to 175's. The 40 didn't exist when I bought my motors and I wouldn't have cared what they weighed if they did. BTW, the 175 only weighs ~ 420 lbs.

 

[kjdunne]

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My 89 40hp long shaft (rude) is 185 lbs. according to the owners manual. Short shafts are 180 lbs.

What does the extra weight of the new ones come from?

 

[DJ]

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What does the extra weight of the new ones come from?

Technology. Unit injectors and all the stuff to power them is heavy. However, great fuel econmy and high performance is worth it.

I'd buy a 60 e-tec to hang on my Whaler, in a heartbeat, if I had an extra 6 large $$$ laying around.

In the meantime, I'm always in the hunt for a 60-70 triple looper. Right JB?

 

[Silvertip]

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This "junk" story came up just a couple weeks ago only it was about "E-tec junk lower units". I spent a fair amount of time researching this claim and came up empty. There was also a story that was debunked by a magazine that looked into a claim that someone knew someone that knew someone else at their marina that lost three E-tec powerheads within minutes of each other. No truth to that either. These stories are apparently being planted, or people are being lied to by sales people that don't sell E-tecs and are finding E-tecs eating away at their sales. When someone tells you about "junk", ask them what their source is and exactly what the proplem(s) were. I'll bet it becomes a second or third party, or a sales person "said" story.