First boat help

[oldjeep]

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[Natesms]

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Making sure you realize a 3.0 is a 4 cylinder. So if he thinks a 6 cylinder would labor a 4 definitely will be way underpowered.

Oops, I was thinking of the 4.3. Yes, I believe a 4 cylinder would be very under-powered, the 4.3 would probably be ok, but not great.

 

[oldjeep]

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I was going to make a comment about it not being that heavy. But Nada guides says that a 93 Crownline 182BR is a full 800lbs heavier than my old 19ft Bayliner. That does seem like a lot of weight to be pushing around with a 21 year old 3.0L engine.

 

[jbgdbg01]

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Oops, I was thinking of the 4.3. Yes, I believe a 4 cylinder would be very under-powered, the 4.3 would probably be ok, but not great.

That's good info. Just wondering why they would under power it. Is there anyone out there running a 3 liter? How do they do? For a 17 to 18 foot boat what is the most common engine?

 

[Natesms]

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That's good info. Just wondering why they would under power it. Is there anyone out there running a 3 liter? How do they do? For a 17 to 18 foot boat what is the most common engine?

They under-power them to keep the price tag down. Will it get you from point A to point B, yes, will you be pulling a slalom skier out of the hole with 5 people in the boat, no way.

 

[southkogs]

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My parents have a Bayliner (Capri, I think) 19 with a 3.0 / 140 Merc. For run-of-the-mill skiing (3 adults in the boat) or cruising (with several people on board - say, 5 adults) it runs fine. No one's going to write songs about it, but it'll hold high 30's.

 

[oldjeep]

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My parents have a Bayliner (Capri, I think) 19 with a 3.0 / 140 Merc. For run-of-the-mill skiing (3 adults in the boat) or cruising (with several people on board - say, 5 adults) it runs fine. No one's going to write songs about it, but it'll hold high 30's.

My 2005 195 with 3.0L would do 43MPH properly trimmed with 4 people in the boat. I skied behind it all the time, only real downside was the lack of power out of the hole.

 

[jbgdbg01]

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Ok, that's good to hear. Low 40's is a good bit better than what I got now low 30's lol. I noticed that that the 2005 195 is about 500 lb. lighter than 1993 182.
Would I be wrong in assuming that the Crownline have about the same speed as my 50 horse Bayliner? Just a much better ride.

 

[jbgdbg01]

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Also it would be a lot more comfortable with 4 people

 

[pckeen]

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There are several sources for windshields. Here are a couple:
iboats has lots of windshield parts.
Great lakes skipper
There are many on ebay
Taylor Made systems will repair them or fabricate parts.

If you have a boat you are happy with, in good mechanical condition, that doesn't need a full restore, it may well be worth doing a few repairs to keep it going.

 

[jbgdbg01]

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I've still been doing research, I found a 1997 Four Winns QX with a 4.3 liter. Assuming that it is in good condition.
From what I'm hearing, I think, having the 4.3 the boat will be a little more responsive. And gph will be about the same?

Any thoughts on older Four Winns.

Ok, hears a thought, what is the "proverbial Toyota" of the boating world. You know, the one you can't kill? Is there such a thing?

 

[ssoper]

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I have a 1993 Four Winns Horizon 190 LE with a 5.0L Cobra, and I love it.

But that said, OMC has been out of business since 93. The 97 with the Volvo drive should be easier getting parts.

 

[jbgdbg01]

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pckeen, thank you for the good info on the windshield. Yes, I have a decent boat in pretty good condition. I think if I can get the windshield fixed I will be happier with it. Funny how that works.

 

[oldjeep]

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Ok, hears a thought, what is the "proverbial Toyota" of the boating world. You know, the one you can't kill? Is there such a thing?

There really isn't one since they all use the same powertrains. In terms of the most indestructible type - an aluminum runabout is harder to really mess up than a fiberglass/wood boat.

 

[jbgdbg01]

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Well that's to bad, that would have made life easier. Best boat is blank. Pick the style you want. Lol

 

[gddavid]

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I would be willing to wager that a 3.0 burns less fuel than a 2 stroke 50hp. In a a boat light enough for them to push they are great motors.

 

[jbgdbg01]

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I would be willing to wager that a 3.0 burns less fuel than a 2 stroke 50hp. In a a boat light enough for them to push they are great motors.

Really, you just Pete my interest!

 

[jbgdbg01]

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Piqued, grrrr spell check. lol

 

[gddavid]

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The following link is a mercruiser test of a fuel injected 3.0, so the numbers will be a little better than carburated

Engine Test | Mercury Marine

You will have a hard time finding fuel usage data for your 50hp force but the following thread was discussing you engine and mileage

http://forums.iboats.com/force-chrysler-outboards/50hp-force-fuel-consumption-438351.html

I have a 3.0 in my 19' bowrider which is a light boat for it's size but it is very easy on fuel. I use it alot for wakeboarding but between taking breaks and switching riders we probably are only running hard for about 3-4 hours in a full day of riding. I have never put more than 15 gallons in the boat for a day's usage. I'm certain I could burn more if I really tried but in my experience it just doesn't use much gas.
It is also far from the perfect wakeboat but it is good enough for me and a vast improvement over a 17' with a 50hp outboard.

 

[chadley58]

JB, what s the verdict? What did you do?

Just as a comparison, I have a 1996 Crownline 182BR with the 4.3 Merc. I stayed away from the 3.0 equipped boats as I think they are underpowered. I am glad I bought one with a 4.3 because it has no issues with power. Had 5-6 adults in boat and it gets up on plane very quickly. it is a heavy boat to tow, but I like the quality and looks of it a lot.