glastron 175 vs bayliner 175

[NCOffSeason]

Re: glastron 175 vs bayliner 175

It's cheating! Not Cheeting!<br /><br />I say get the Glastron, slap a tower, racks and wicked speakers on it (that you can hear while riding WOT mind you) and go ride.<br /><br />Oh, I forgot, I already did that.<br /><br />

 

[Mercathode]

Re: glastron 175 vs bayliner 175

Boating Novice<br />Often the cheapest price is not the cheapest way to buy a boat. If you opt for a Bayliner with the 3.0 the first thing you will notice is a lack of power. Then you will be writing a post on ibaoats forum asking how to get more power. Then it will cost you $$$$$ to trade up to the Glastron.

 

[peevuto]

Re: glastron 175 vs bayliner 175

This whole thing about no power in a 17.5' Bayliner is a load of bunk... put a stainless high five 19p prop on 'er and it brings that 3.0L to life. Pulls 2 heavy skiers (200+ lbs) and a 3 man tube loaded with ease too. Sacrifice a couple of mph on the top end with the 19p, but who cares? 45mph at 4800 RPM is fast enough. Plus, went 6 hours straight and only burned a third of a tank! Now thats economical too!

 

[Bayrider]

Re: glastron 175 vs bayliner 175

Hi peevuto. <br /> I have a 17.5 B/liner 3.0L 135HP Alpha 1 Gen 2 and if I was running at mid to high rpm for 6 hours straight I would use a lot more than a 1/3 of a tank.I also have Smart Tabs fitted.Are you sure about your figures.

 

[delsol]

Re: glastron 175 vs bayliner 175

8 gal gal in 6 hrs , what planet mars, floating.<br />6hrs

 

[Jdeagro]

Re: glastron 175 vs bayliner 175

Peevuto;<br /><br />The high five propwill cost him $500 to $600 ( I think) and that is a bit much for an econimical boat. If pulling skiers and tubes is on the horrizon, along with acceleration, top speed , hole shot, no porpoising, smooth ride, and more fuel economy stay with the factory prop, and do a search on Smart Tabs for well under $199.

 

[Mercury140-I6]

Re: glastron 175 vs bayliner 175

Peevuto, what you fail to realize. It takes horsepower to get mileage. The more horsepower you have (Within reason), the better economy you will actually get cause you are not taxing the engine nearly as much. <br /><br />My boat is a perfect example of this. It's a 1996 Glastron GS-160 with a 1979 Merc 140 inline 6 (115 Prop). TrailerBoats did a writeup on Larsons version of my boat with a 1996 or 7 Johnson V-4 90hp. They reported that in just under 2 hours of running WOT the 16 gallon tank should be empty. It takes me 3 hours of running the same speed that they got with the 90 to almost totally empty my tank. I had 1/2 Gal left when I got to the dock.<br /><br />Craig

 

[peevuto]

Re: glastron 175 vs bayliner 175

Bayrider: when I say 6 hours straight, I mean we were on the lake for 6 hours... with starts and stops to load skiers, tubers, wakers, etc. Went to dock with almost 2/3 of a tank. <br /><br />Bobby: Not Mars. Earth. 6 hours with starts and stops. Who the hell runs 6 hours straight at WOT? I thought u would know that I meant 6 hours steady on the Lake, with starts stops to load/unload. But still steady usage.<br /><br />NautiJohn: The highfive is not too much for economical boat, and is a wise investment. Makes the boat perform out of the hole like a more expensive boat that would cost 4-5k more. So for 500-600 get that type of performance... what a deal. I will search on smarttabs tho and see what they are supposed to offer... but just the name makes them sound kind of flaky. I don't know what you mean by porpoising or smooth ride, cuz I don't experience any porpoising and the ride is ultra smooth already. Forget the factory prop tho... its a POS compared to the highfive.<br /><br />Mercury: We are not talking engines of the same size here. The larger the engine, the less the fuel economy. A 6 cyl will always suck more fuel than a 4 cyl.

 

[POINTER94]

Re: glastron 175 vs bayliner 175

WOW, What a post.<br /><br />We are not talking engines of the same size here. The larger the engine, the less the fuel economy. <br /><br />False.... Fuel has an energy factor, if all things are equal it takes just as much energy to move say a 5000K boat 30mph, whether it is a 260hp or a 320hp. The rpm's may be higher on the 260 but energy for result should be almost equal. Friction is the only factor based on # of pistons and size.<br /><br />PSST, Nautijohn is the manufacturer of smart tabs and if you read any posts here on the forum, they are well liked by "everyone" who has tried them. He is also an advertiser (benefactor) to this forum. He also hands out useful "facts" for free whether they use his product or not.<br /><br />Time for some math, 25gal x .33 (1/3 tank)= 8.25gal divided by 6 hours = 1.37 gph. Sounds like mars to me.

 

[peevuto]

Re: glastron 175 vs bayliner 175

Time for some more math: The Bayliner 175 is rated at 2.7 gph at 2500 RPM's or 20mph, which with starts and stops and wakeboarding at 15mph is more than what would have been averaged for the 6 hours. So I guess the math fits here on Earth after all, sorry to disappoint. Even if you up the fuel consumption to 1/2 a tank... still damn good.<br /><br />Anytime you want to rate your v8 fuel economy on the same boat vs my 4-banger.. just tell me how much you willing to give to charity . Oh I forgot... an 8 cylinder will get better gas mileage than a 4 cylinder according to 'your' math. Now, THAT sounds like Mars to me! That must be why car manufacturers wanting to meet fuel consumption standards and guidelines produce all those over-worked, fuel-hungry 4 cylinder models! LOL.

 

[phatmanmike]

Re: glastron 175 vs bayliner 175

what he is saying is that if you have 2 boats, i dentical boats... one with 100hp and 1 with 150hp, the 150hp would not only push the boat EASIEr and FASTER, but when cruising it would use less gas cause it takes less of its m otor to push the same boat, instead of haveing the 100hp motor having to scream all day long, the 150hp could push it lazily<br /><br />i have a 115hp mercury inline 6 on my 17 foot center console wich used to have a 65hp suzuki<br /><br />i can cruise all day at the same speeds as the 65, but using less of my motor and less of my fuel. <br /><br />notice i say CRUSING, and NOT WOT....<br /><br />larger motor is more effiecient at pushing said hull than smaller motor, and if the driver is good and knows his/her motor, they can take full advantage of this fact

 

[POINTER94]

Re: glastron 175 vs bayliner 175

Forget it mike....

 

[smokeyjoe 2]

Re: glastron 175 vs bayliner 175

GO WITH THE GLASTRON!!!! A Friend of mine HAD a Bayliner and it was the most suck @$$ boat I ever been in hands down

 

[KCook]

Re: glastron 175 vs bayliner 175

smokeyjoe 2, what year was your friend's Bay?

 

[smokeyjoe 2]

Re: glastron 175 vs bayliner 175

99'

 

[KCook]

Re: glastron 175 vs bayliner 175

Thanks for the info smokeyjoe 2

 

[Bondo]

Re: glastron 175 vs bayliner 175

the level of finish of the Bayliner. Is it my fault that when I did my 50 item checklist that Bayliner was on tops by quite a margin

Once you get past the Carpet,+ Vinyl Graphics......<br />You'll See Your Mistake.............<br /><br />IMHO,<br />Bilgeliners are Still built with the Least amount of Inferior Materials Possible ,<br />To create the Illusion of a Quality Boat..........

 

[cobra 3.0]

Re: glastron 175 vs bayliner 175

Remember the old adage, "You get what you pay for."

 

[swist]

Re: glastron 175 vs bayliner 175

"Bilgeliners are Still built with the Least amount of Inferior Materials Possible ,<br />To create the Illusion of a Quality Boat.........."<br /><br />These boats are built in volume by a pretty high-tech facility. I would say it results in a boat built with the least amount of adequate materials, and that there are enough controls in the processing that it is unlikely you will have a major problem with the hull.<br /><br />The worst possible scenario is a bottom-end low-volume builder where you are indeed at the mercy of the last loser hired at $6.75/hr and how much he drank the night before. <br /><br />I also don't think there is a hell of a lot of difference between SeaRay and Maxum/Bayliner. Yeah I know they aren't built in the same plants, but it's the same company and the same philosophy - build em fast to minimum acceptable standards and move em on out.... <br /><br />Perception is everything. SeaRay can do no wrong in many people's eyes.<br /><br />Glastron I'm ignorant about (and a lot of people would say I'm ignorant about a whole lot of other things too .

 

[srperry01]

Re: glastron 175 vs bayliner 175

J.D. Power would disagree with you swist but I personally have no expierence with any of them so I can't say one way or another. Sea Ray's get very high marks by J.D as opposed to the Bayliner's. I too find it hard to believe that Bayliner's are as bad as some say they are but again, I have no expierence so...