Gonna kill my buddy....

[wingmastr23]

Man....I had a great friend of mine complain constantly about my fire extinguisher "bouncing around" in one of my bow compartments.....I told him, if he didn't like it, do something about it.....just don't mount it where it is gonna be in the way.....

Well....he did.....Yesterday, I walked outside and he showed me where he mounted it (near cockpit area).....The first thing I thought was....hmmm....how did he mount that without drilling into the hull.....

Well....he didn't - I now have 3 screws sticking out of my friggin hull.....time to call the fiberglass repair man....lol

If he wasn't such a good friend - I would be alot more upset....but he has done alot for me......

Another reason I don't have a Cobalt I guess....

 

[ScottinAZ]

Re: Gonna kill my buddy....

sounds like a case of being careful what you wish for, as you may just get it. Sorry to hear about the holes though, but its a fairly easy fix

 

[Silvertip]

Re: Gonna kill my buddy....

I would also be a little more careful about who you let loose with tools on your boat. Friend or not, some folks simply should not mess with tools.

 

[Summer Fun]

Re: Gonna kill my buddy....

about my fire extinguisher "bouncing around" in one of my bow compartments.

Well first of all . Why wasn't it mounted right in the first place ??
It sounds like you run your boat with a I don't care attitude.

Bayliner

OK, I can see why now.

I have 6 fire extinguishers between the cabin & helm area & 3 Fire boys in the [ Engine bays ] that are mounted correctly.

 

[jay_merrill]

Re: Gonna kill my buddy....

A fire extinguisher is a pressurized container - not really a good thing to have bouncing around in your boat. Its also something that could be needed in a time of emergency, so allowing it to face potential damage from being unsecured, is also unwise.

While I feel for you a little on the damage to your boat, somehow I'm having a hard time getting beyond "a little." Do yourself a favor - go through your boat and make sure that everything is in a proper, safe condition. Given your habits in regard to fire extinguishers, I have a "sneakin' suspicion" that there are other things that need attention.

We like our iboats members around here, so we'll be happy to know that we have encouraged you to be a safe boater .... and one who will remain in good health, so that he can make further contributions to the forums!



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[oops!]

Re: Gonna kill my buddy....

that is an easy fix....go to the restoration forum and start reading...

a glass guy will charge 150 bux.

you can dyi in 2 hrs with little skill and some basic tools......matching the gellcoat will be the hardest thing to do

 

[JimS123]

Re: Gonna kill my buddy....

Buy some SS pan head bolts and decorative SS finish washers and mount them from the outside. Seal the holes with 5200. It will then look like the bolts belong there. My aluminum boat has several things mounted on the side of the hull in this way

I have cover snaps running down both sides of my fiberglass boat and they stick out further than the finish washers.

 

[jay_merrill]

Re: Gonna kill my buddy....

Drilling a hole through the boat, just to mount a fire extinguisher, would not be my choice. I would either find another location to mount it, or glass a wood block onto the section of hull in consideration and screw the bracket onto that.



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[wingmastr23]

Re: Gonna kill my buddy....

Well first of all . Why wasn't it mounted right in the first place ??
It sounds like you run your boat with a I don't care attitude.

OK, I can see why now.

I have 6 fire extinguishers between the cabin & helm area & 3 Fire boys in the [ Engine bays ] that are mounted correctly.

Well there big fella!! You da MAN!!

As far as the "bayliner" quote....give me a break.....You have a 23yr old "Bayliner...otherwise known as SeaRay"......

I could buy a Cobalt if I needed too.......but I would rather tow in one.....like I did this weekend at Silverwood Lake....Or, watch a dingaling in a SeaRay trying to get his motor started when I drop my "Bayliner" in the water and fire it right up.....(also happened this weekend.....with 3 holes in my hull...)

For the others concerned about the extinguisher "bouncing around"....it wasn't literally bouncing around....it is how my buddy described it, it was in a compartment and it fit just fine....nothing on top of it, nothing else in there....it fit well....

Man...some people gotta play armchair QB........A bunch of brilliance all packed into a lazyboy and a beer belly...

 

[Sixmark]

Re: Gonna kill my buddy....

OK fellas let's ease back on the mudslinging throttle......

fixing those holes isn' that hard of a task, especially considering they are just screw holes, believe it or not that actually makes it better than a clean hole as it will give the fill something to grab onto. If you have access to the back side of the hull then t will be even better yet.

Just fill it and then carefully sand it down, you can then track down some paint that is specially formulated for gelcoat repairs at the local autobody repair supply store, it's going to cost a few bucks but not as much as a repair shop would charge.

 

[tboltmike]

Re: Gonna kill my buddy....

Buy some SS pan head bolts and decorative SS finish washers and mount them from the outside. Seal the holes with 5200. It will then look like the bolts belong there. My aluminum boat has several things mounted on the side of the hull in this way

I have cover snaps running down both sides of my fiberglass boat and they stick out further than the finish washers.

That is what I was thinking if it is a functional location. Could use brass if you like yella betta.

 

[Summer Fun]

Re: Gonna kill my buddy....

wingmastr23, I had 3 Bayliners before the Sea Ray. .
Sorry if I hurt your feelings. I thought I knew you from BOC & was just busting them on you...

I meant no harm or ill feelings. .

 

[Fun Times]

Re: Gonna kill my buddy....

I could buy a Cobalt if I needed too.......but I would rather tow in one.....like I did this weekend at Silverwood Lake....

Silverwood Lake in so-cal?

What year cobalt was it if you had to guess?

 

[jay_merrill]

Re: Gonna kill my buddy....

Well there big fella!! You da MAN!!
For the others concerned about the extinguisher "bouncing around"....it wasn't literally bouncing around....it is how my buddy described it, it was in a compartment and it fit just fine....nothing on top of it, nothing else in there....it fit well....

Man...some people gotta play armchair QB........A bunch of brilliance all packed into a lazyboy and a beer belly...

I have a bit of a belly, but its not from beer. I don't have a lazyboy, either.

I also do volunteer SAR missions for both the U.S. Coast Guard and the Louisiana Dept. of Wildlife & Fisheries. SAR can mean either "Search & Rescue," or "Search & Recovery." While I obviously prefer to find people who are alive, more often than should be the case, I end up looking for one or more bodies.

More often than not, when I get involved in these missions, someone has done something pretty dumb. They too, tend to be people who don't like to take advice from people with experience in such matters.

As to mounting marine fire extinguishers, Coast Guard regs don't actually require that they be mounted. You can place them in a compartment, but that should be done in a way that protects the extinguisher and it should be easily retrieved in an emergency. The specific location should be away from from places where fire would be likely to originate. Storage locations should also allow use while moving away from the fire and getting out of the boat.

One item that should serve as food for thought on mounting, however, is that in order for a fire extinguisher to be approved for marine use by the USCG, it must be packaged with a mount that is intended for service in a marine environment.

So, if your extinguisher was located in a compartment with nothing else, was that compartment small enough to prevent all movement of the extinguisher? Was it wrapped in bubble wrap, sponge rubber, etc., to protect it? Could you get to it easily in an emergency and/or in a moment of panic?

You may think that all of this is nitpicking, but I will tell you from experience, the ones who exhibit a great amount of attention to detail on such issues, are usually the ones that don't get into bad situations. Even if they do, though no fault of their own, they tend to be the ones that can minimize collateral problems, if at all psossible. Conversely, those who do not take the time to be particular about safety issues, tend to be the ones that we have to go find, rescue, etc.



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[Philster]

Re: Gonna kill my buddy....

Fess up. You did it.

 

[scipper77]

Re: Gonna kill my buddy....

At least he didn't mount it to the floor!

 

[wingmastr23]

Re: Gonna kill my buddy....

Silverwood Lake in so-cal?

What year cobalt was it if you had to guess?

My guess would be mid to late 90's or so.....why, was it you?

 

[wingmastr23]

Re: Gonna kill my buddy....

I have a bit of a belly, but its not from beer. I don't have a lazyboy, either.

I also do volunteer SAR missions for both the U.S. Coast Guard and the Louisiana Dept. of Wildlife & Fisheries. SAR can mean either "Search & Rescue," or "Search & Recovery." While I obviously prefer to find people who are alive, more often than should be the case, I end up looking for one or more bodies.

More often than not, when I get involved in these missions, someone has done something pretty dumb. They too, tend to be people who don't like to take advice from people with experience in such matters.

As to mounting marine fire extinguishers, Coast Guard regs don't actually require that they be mounted. You can place them in a compartment, but that should be done in a way that protects the extinguisher and it should be easily retrieved in an emergency. The specific location should be away from from places where fire would be likely to originate. Storage locations should also allow use while moving away from the fire and getting out of the boat.

One item that should serve as food for thought on mounting, however, is that in order for a fire extinguisher to be approved for marine use by the USCG, it must be packaged with a mount that is intended for service in a marine environment.

So, if your extinguisher was located in a compartment with nothing else, was that compartment small enough to prevent all movement of the extinguisher? Was it wrapped in bubble wrap, sponge rubber, etc., to protect it? Could you get to it easily in an emergency and/or in a moment of panic?

You may think that all of this is nitpicking, but I will tell you from experience, the ones who exhibit a great amount of attention to detail on such issues, are usually the ones that don't get into bad situations. Even if they do, though no fault of their own, they tend to be the ones that can minimize collateral problems, if at all psossible. Conversely, those who do not take the time to be particular about safety issues, tend to be the ones that we have to go find, rescue, etc.



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The marine fire extinguisher (KIDDE Mariner 110 to be exact) was placed in a small bow compartment with 2 of my extra throw cushions......

Trust me.....It is back in there.....and I wish it would have never left!!

 

[Fun Times]

Re: Gonna kill my buddy....

My guess would be mid to late 90's or so.....why, was it you?

lol, No it was not me, Just a little concerned about it is all, Because just maybe I don't feel like working on it.















Again. J/K