Has anyone ever seen this?

1946Zephyr

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Split case lower unit....hmmmmm....14hp? Even weirder. Yes, I believe this is a motor that was built with obsolete parts and molds. If this is a motor built in a foriegn country (1988-89)with obsolete parts, then it's likely that early '70's parts here, are compatable. A lot of times, what we'll do here in the states, to help out other countries, is send out the previous tooling and parts, for various things. You could just about name it, but it was common in anyhting to do with cars, outboards, or anything else with a spark plug.

One of the finest examples, is Johnson and Gale Products. Most Gales were built with leftover parts and obsolete tooling, from Johnson motors. This is an example of what has gone on in our borders.
Well, other countries will buy obsolete tooling and parts, to produce their lines of motors. It's a pretty old practice. Australia purchased obsolete stamping dies from us, to build cars. South America bought the tooling to build the VW Beetles. Canada built their own rendition of the Ford Falcon in the 1960's and called it the "Frontenac"

The bottom line is: Third world countries get to buy our obsolete and discontinued sh*t. There will be slight differences, from our own, but seeing this is quite interesting. If you buy a JDM engine for a 1991 Geo Metro, you might find a carburator attached to the manifold. Here in the states, none have ever been sold with a carburator, but overseas they did. In this case though, the countries that used the engine, had their own designs for carburation, which met their air quality standards, which may not be like ours.

So, if you look at buying parts for this motor, don't be surprised if the parts match up with stuff here, ten years prior, like the early '70's. The 15 and 9.9 came out here, about 1973 or 74. After a few years in production, they made some changes. Well, Johny/Rude likely sold the rights to the previous parts to third world countries out there.

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Rick.

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1946Zephyr You didn't just call Canada and Australia third world countries did you? Rick.
 

snooking99

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Hey guys I have another question on this 14hp split case. How do you get the shift shaft connected back together. I have the lower unit in R and the shift selector in R and there is not enough room left to get the screw between the 2 cases? Is there a trick to it?
John
 

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I just seen this and figured this is what the plug is for
 

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Not sure what you mean by getting the shift shaft back together in regard to the gearcase being of the split variety. That should have nothing to do with rebuilding the water pump, if that's what you are up to. The upper and lower shift rods are joined just like the rest of the OMC motors - with a shift rod connector. It is a piece of folded brass that accepts two screws which secure the shift rods in the link.

BTW, that motor had two different carbs on it, with one being described as being an "early production" carb, and one being described as a "late production" carb. Both are shown in the parts explosion at www.shop.evinrude.com. The 1988 15hp had two different carbs too, and they correspond to those on the 14, roughly. The part numbers are different and there is one major, physical difference - the 14hp motor carburetors have a primer, while the 15hp carbs do not.
 

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1946Zephyr You didn't just call Canada and Australia third world countries did you? Rick.

Hmmm... I read it that way also!

I think it's time to start massing the injuns, polar bears and sled dogs along the border... Just in case!
 

samo_ott

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Maybe we can make a small incursion into Montana before anyone noticed!
 

jay_merrill

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Steve, go find some of your kin in NB & NS and c'mon down to Looooziana! Y'all been here for quite awhile anyway!

BTW - did you ever get the J65 manual PDF that I emailed to you?
 

snooking99

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Yes i am talking about the brass connector. I know you have to have the bolt out all the way and slide the lower unit up far enough to reinstall the bolt. But when i get the lower unit up far enough to do that there is no room between the lower unit and the mid section to get the bolt in there. Like i stated the lower unit is in R and so is the shift selector.
 

ezeke

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Move the shift lever until the upper section of the shift rod is as low as it will go and use tweezer-nosed pliers to raise the shift rod from the gearcase; that will give you the space that you need.
 

snooking99

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if I pull up the lower portion of the shift shaft with pliers wont that take it out of Rev. and put it into Nuetral?
 

ezeke

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What possible difference would that make?

As soon as you have the shift rod connected and the gearcase snugged up, you can put it in whatever gear you want.
 

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if I pull up the lower portion of the shift shaft with pliers wont that take it out of Rev. and put it into Nuetral?

Sounds like your motor is like the 6hp, in that it has no port in the midsection to get at the link. That being the case, you have to do exactly what Ezeke said. Don't worry about it because when you push the gearcase upwards when it is time to bolt it to the midsection, the shift handle will move to where it is supposed to be.


One trick that I find to be very handy in getting the screw back into place, is to hold it from the end with a claw type extractor. The shaft of these tools is slim enough to get into the space, and you can use it to insert the screw into the link. The tension of the claws should also be enough to hold the hex head on the screw well enough to get it started. You can then remove the extractor tool and use a 1/4" drive socket or a screwdriver.
 

snooking99

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I had thought about getting a claw. I think that is going to be the only way I can get it.
 

snooking99

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OK the lower unit is back on and shifting nicely. Thanks again for all of your guys help. All i need now is a carb. and she should be ready to go.
 
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