Looking at a boat...

MariahS

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Re: Looking at a boat...

Done, forget that one. How about the one that's here in town (wink wink nudge nudge)?
 

ezmobee

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BAYLINER CAPRI

This one look to be any good?

That is literally the worst boat ever made. I am not exaggerating. (oh wait, I guess an L-drive would be worse but that one is still pretty bad).

Heed the advice I gave about motors and drives in my first post in this thread.
 

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Done, forget that one. How about the one that's here in town (wink wink nudge nudge)?
Hard to tell with that one. Generally, the pictures tell more than the ads ... or at least provide clarity against the "salesmanship."

Boat/Engine/Drive combo sounds okay, and Glastron makes a nice boat. It's worth lookin' at.
 

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looky looky at this one. Looks very clean. And wiht that price you could have something done if needed..
1972 Sea Sprite 17'

I would probably buy this myself with a compression check and firing on the muffs. If the engine is sound, you wouldn't lose money if the hull was bad..
 

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looky looky at this one. Looks very clean. And wiht that price you could have something done if needed..
1972 Sea Sprite 17'

I would probably buy this myself with a compression check and firing on the muffs. If the engine is sound, you wouldn't lose money if the hull was bad..
... is that an Electric Shift Evinrude? I'm not afraid of 'em myself but that could be tough on a noob.
 

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... is that an Electric Shift Evinrude? I'm not afraid of 'em myself but that could be tough on a noob.

Hmm good point ot check on that. If it worked fine I still think you could have some carefree boating for a low price, but your ability to unload might not be as much..
 

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... is that an Electric Shift Evinrude? I'm not afraid of 'em myself but that could be tough on a noob.

Could be. '72 was the last year of them. However, going solely on Google image search and hood graphics, that COULD be a '73. Either way, that's a real cherry rig for a fair price. I'd take the gamble.
 

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Called him up. When I was asking him questions I think he thought I was stupid. I asked how long ago the pictures were taken, he said "well didn't you see the pictures on the ad?" Um, yes I did, sir, I'm just making sure they weren't taken 10 years ago and it's a dump now lol. Also, he wasn't keen on me asking for pictures of the interior. He's stored it in his garage and just hasn't taken it out the past couple years. He did replace that water pump, though, so I'm guessing he's still done maintenance otherwise how would he know to replace the pump? I also asked him about the electric shift and he said he didn't know, you just push the throttle forward to go faster... I'm guessing not. I told him I would call him in about a week and a half. I'm totally going up the weekend of the 20th to take a look at this.

I think I might go check out that Glasstron, too. If for nothing else to see another boat and find some things to look for.
 

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Way to go! CL shopping is great, but nothing can beat plain sight seeing and real tire kicking.
 

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Called him up. When I was asking him questions I think he thought I was stupid. I asked how long ago the pictures were taken, he said "well didn't you see the pictures on the ad?" Um, yes I did, sir, I'm just making sure they weren't taken 10 years ago and it's a dump now lol. Also, he wasn't keen on me asking for pictures of the interior. He's stored it in his garage and just hasn't taken it out the past couple years. He did replace that water pump, though, so I'm guessing he's still done maintenance otherwise how would he know to replace the pump? I also asked him about the electric shift and he said he didn't know, you just push the throttle forward to go faster... I'm guessing not. I told him I would call him in about a week and a half. I'm totally going up the weekend of the 20th to take a look at this.

I think I might go check out that Glasstron, too. If for nothing else to see another boat and find some things to look for.
That Sea Sprite is in really good shape ... and so I don't creep you out completely on the motor: I've never owned anything except electric shift OMC outboards and I/O's (it's just kinda' happened that way). I really like them, but they are obsolete.

If there are three buttons on the shift controller by the steering wheel - it's electric shift. It looks like it's in great shape, and if it's as well cared for as the boat looks it's likely to go for a very long time.
 

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OK here is what may be another gem. I like these glastrons..
1973 Glastron V-174 Bayflite

My friends have a Forrester of the same vintage and the hull looks exactly the same and it is built like a battleship. The closed bow robs places to sit, but it also puts the gas tank forward which helps with weight distribution. My friends boat has a 70hp evinrude which makes it go pretty good. This I/O would be very nice in that rig..
 

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This might be kind of left-field since it's completely different boat than what I was sort of originally looking at, but I've been doing some thinking. I don't plan on doing any water skiing or tubing and plan to mainly hang out and fish on it, so what about something like this? Does this look pretty decent? I haven't contacted the seller yet, so I don't even know if it's still up for grabs, but it seems to be more up my alley for what I'd want a boat for.

Sylvan Deck Boat 19" w/ 80 hp Evinrude
 
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For hanging out, this style is a good boat. My concern is the "project" reference. Anytime something is a project, there is probably more work to be done than meets the eye.
 

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NO.

While deck boat maybe something worth considering for your usage, skip this one. Do I need to highlight the red flags?

"1977 19" Sylvan Deck Boat w/ 80 hp Evinrude - $2000

Fantastic project boat. I completed much of the work to be done on this boat including:
All new marine plywood floor and supports
New carpet
New semi-custom trailerable cover
New ski locker doors
New "stay-open" bow storage door
New bow and stern line
New anchor line
Fishing rod holder

I only had it in the water a couple of times, but the engine ran well. It is a 80hp 1966 Evinrude electronic shift outboard. I had a mechanic tune it up at the beginning of the season and he said the compression was good. I had some difficulty with the forward gear the last time I used it. I suspect it is a spun prop, but have not had it check out by a mechanic.

Other Details:
Cut to size marine plywood if the new owner wishes to rebuild original seating
Trailer (non-licensed) included with new jack wheel
Seats up to 10 people

$2000 or Best Offer

Awesome first boat or project boat.

Call (952) 401-7079 or email with questions.


Have several boating items that I am also willing to sell including life jackets, multiple tow ropes, skis, tubes, etc."

First, he already sais it's an uncompleted project. Then, while 80hp JohnnyRude were usually good engines, the '60's electric shift system (and not electronic as he said) is not particulary desirable. Also, the problem with the forward gear is very unlikely to be only a spun hub, otherwise he may have fixed it himself. And, to top it off, the seats were likely shot and he probably can't provide a title for the trailer.

Is this enough? ;)
 

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ARG! I should bang my head against the wall. I actually thought about that right after I posted the link. Duh, project. I can't win. In general, though, the type of boat sounds like a good match? My only issue with them is they seem to be large, and there's not many of them in the area. I don't think I want a pontoon boat. A deck boat, from what I can tell, is somewhat of a hybrid. I should say that no matter where we get the boat from, we'll be enlisting someone to come with us to check the boat out. I don't care to get a project in an area that I know virtually nothing about.
 

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Well as I am in Minnesota, I can concur that we tend to have high boat prices due to the overwhelming number of lakes and sheer demand for them. NADA is like a down payment schedule. Everyone has a beater boat in their back yard if they don't have a trailer queen in their garage. I fear you are in the back yard, beater realm of boats. I actually can't believe some of the junk I see at the ramps that still float from the 80's and 90's. I didn't quite catch if you are under budgetary contraints or are just looking to boat on the cheap. While I'd invite you to MN for some shopping, you will need to be willing to kiss a lot of toads to ever find a decent fiberglass boat in the prices you have mentioned so far. My best advice for someone who wants to go boating and not go fixing, is to get something at the oldest in the late 1990's. Your odds will logically improve that you will not be as disappointed as I can only imagine with a boat from the 1970's.
I still see an amazingly high number of late 1990's boats that people don't maintain as well there however. People tend to think maintainance on a boat can be deferred because they don't use it much which couldn't be further from the truth. Here ,nearly all of our boats are under 20 feet and so as opposed to moving up in size as you get more experienced or dissatisfied, folks tend to move up in brand and sell to the next person to learn how to boat on.

As to your question regarding the age of the pictures, recently I was considering a tow vehicle out of state on Ebay and the pictures of the truck, although had only 30,000 miles, were just too good to be true. After a bit of researching the owner finally admitted the pictures were from when it was brand new making the price too high but not negotiable. It's amazing the white lies and outright deceptions people will tell to sell something. Boats may be at the top of the list of things people will lie about.
 

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Well as I am in Minnesota, ...I actually can't believe some of the junk I see at the ramps that still float from the 80's and 90's.

80's and 90's? When we bought our boat last year (in Minnesota), the dealer had one that they took in trade-in - three years old, and it was TRASHED. No idea how anybody could abuse a boat so badly.
 

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80's and 90's? When we bought our boat last year (in Minnesota), the dealer had one that they took in trade-in - three years old, and it was TRASHED. No idea how anybody could abuse a boat so badly.

I came across the same thing way back when I bought my Chaparral when I was looking at boats. Except it was a Sea Ray and the first owner was selling but was only 3 years old and totally beat to heck and then some. His thought was that you use a boat up and get rid of it. He said he let every friend he had take it out whenever they wanted. I think the only reason I looked at it was because it had ultra rare (back then) MPI. He wanted an offer from me and I wouldn't have taken it if he hooked it up to my vehicle and handed me the the title. Aint nobody got time for that. I'll say that that is the exception as most folks finance boats and presumably don't totally destroy it within the finance period...this guy had paid cash for it.
 

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Well as I am in Minnesota, I can concur that we tend to have high boat prices due to the overwhelming number of lakes and sheer demand for them. NADA is like a down payment schedule. Everyone has a beater boat in their back yard if they don't have a trailer queen in their garage. I fear you are in the back yard, beater realm of boats. I actually can't believe some of the junk I see at the ramps that still float from the 80's and 90's. I didn't quite catch if you are under budgetary contraints or are just looking to boat on the cheap. While I'd invite you to MN for some shopping, you will need to be willing to kiss a lot of toads to ever find a decent fiberglass boat in the prices you have mentioned so far. My best advice for someone who wants to go boating and not go fixing, is to get something at the oldest in the late 1990's. Your odds will logically improve that you will not be as disappointed as I can only imagine with a boat from the 1970's.
I still see an amazingly high number of late 1990's boats that people don't maintain as well there however. People tend to think maintainance on a boat can be deferred because they don't use it much which couldn't be further from the truth. Here ,nearly all of our boats are under 20 feet and so as opposed to moving up in size as you get more experienced or dissatisfied, folks tend to move up in brand and sell to the next person to learn how to boat on.

As to your question regarding the age of the pictures, recently I was considering a tow vehicle out of state on Ebay and the pictures of the truck, although had only 30,000 miles, were just too good to be true. After a bit of researching the owner finally admitted the pictures were from when it was brand new making the price too high but not negotiable. It's amazing the white lies and outright deceptions people will tell to sell something. Boats may be at the top of the list of things people will lie about.

I think prices are much higher here in South Dakota, which is why I'm looking in the cities. That along with being up there occasionally anyways. I intend to pay cash, and we don't have a ton of it. We've got to get a 104' fenceline put in this summer and are also hoping to pave at least part of the driveway this year. We're all of 22 and 24, newly married as of last year, and my husband just bought a motorcycle two weeks ago. I'm trying to keep it under the $3k range with the knowledge that I'm going to have to fix something with any boat I buy. Really trying to keep it under $2k, just for some wiggle room. Part of what's driving the price is that I think we'll use it quite a bit, but I can think that all I want and until we have something I don't know that for a fact. I don't care to finance due to short credit history. We do alright for ourselves, but if I can get away with paying cash, I'd rather do that.
 
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