NFL Round 2 Make your picks

gaugeguy

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That's right MY, the Chiefs defense couldn't cover a casserole. Indy really big 43-21.
 

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Ok, Carphunter now I have to remind you that after the Pats beat the Titans the last time, I made the crazy prediction that they wouldn't lose another game all season. :D 5 Defensive starters did not play that game for the Pats <br /><br />And, as for finding ways to win, the Pats have won the most games by the fewest points of any NFL team (I think it is a record) all while playing 42 different starters :eek: That's not a typo - they played 42 different starters due to injuries. Teams even near that number have double digit losses. :p <br /><br />MY - the Colts were awe inspiring. Not to take anything away from Indy but I just can't believe how badly Denver played. How do you not down a receiver with 3 defenders standing around him? How does that happen? How do you leave so many receivers uncovered and let them get behind your defenders that deep?<br /><br />Catfish - I think KC was as over rated as the Pats were under rated. The Pats only have 2 pro bowlers this year...<br /><br />The updated odds to capture the 2003-04 NFC Championship are listed below: <br /><br />Team................Open....Current<br />Philadelphia........5/2......EVEN<br />St. Louis...........7/2......6/5<br />Green Bay...........6/1......4/1<br />Carolina...........35/1......8/1<br /><br />The updated odds to capture the 2003-04 AFC Championship are listed below: <br /><br />Team...............Open.....Current<br />New England.........8/1......4/5<br />Kansas City........12/1......9/5<br />Indianapolis........8/1......4/1<br />Tennessee...........7/1......8/1
 

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Rams<br />Pats<br />KC<br />GB<br /><br />Hey everybody, we're goin Eagle hunting.<br />We've dug out the razor blades, the cayenne pepper, the itching powder, the pine tar, the spray glue, and the wd-40.
 

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So the current odds put the Titans as the least likely to win the AFC championship. Sounds as though the Titans are right where they want to be, underdogs, with no chance at all. :D <br /><br />Seriously, I don't dislike the Patriots. They are definetly underrated and a great team. Not like the Ravens, I despise them. :mad: <br /><br />So Ralph, what your saying then is that injuries are overrated? Thats what I like to hear. ;) <br /><br />38 - 30 Patriots over Titans in the first meeting. I believe it will be close again. Same score, different winner. :D <br /><br />......and I have to correct myself, the Titans have the #1 run defense. I don't believe they have the overall #1 defense though.
 

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I am pretty sure Dallas had the #1 rated defense <br /><br />Pats were missing 5 of their defensive starters in the first contest.<br /><br />Injuries depend on the team and player(s) injured.<br /><br />Pats win by defense - they score just enough to win.<br /><br />I think the odds are just reflecting the Titan's injuries...<br /><br />Sports talk radio up here and the Pats players are expecting a very close, tough, game.
 

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Run defense is not a big deal to the Pats, they don't run the ball. They may have had 1 or 2 games where they went over 100 on the ground. Quick, short passes...Vineteri in the cold...long game for McNair and the Titans.
 

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and the bills had the #2 rated defense...so?<br />all about take-aways IMO.<br />it comes down to coaching, Belichic and Fisher<br />R 2 best coaches in the leauge...
 

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Originally posted by roscoe:<br /> Hey everybody, we're goin Eagle hunting.<br />We've dug out the razor blades, the cayenne pepper, the itching powder, the pine tar, the spray glue, and the wd-40.
The Packers are good when cornered, but I may as well get in here and lay the smack down.<br /><br />Eagle hunting is illegal, and unpatriotic, but if you want to, you're going to need all that stuff to win. Philly has no problem sending Favre and company back home to make cheese for our steaks come Superbowl Sunday.<br /><br />I would even venture to say the Patsies have a chance to go all the way, but I have a big-mouthed cousin-in-law living in Worcester who is always jabbering about his girls. Statistics indicate one thing, game day is often another. We'll see if Andy Reid can keep things in order for the next 12 quarters.<br /><br /><<sarcasm off>> :)
 

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Gauge, although during the first meeting the Pats ran the ball down the Titan's throat. They had 9 first downs rushing and averaged 6 yds per carry while the Titan's averaged 2.6 and had 4 rushing first downs. Both teams had 27 rushing attempts.
 

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I agree Mellow, seems whoever wins the turnover battle, wins the game. That wasn't the case in the Titans - Ravens game though. McNair stunk it up with 3 int's, and they still won, on the road. I don't believe he will play that bad again against the Pats. (And Jeff Fisher never gets the respect he deserves).<br /><br />Guageguy - I believe the cold weather thing is overrated...............unless your Brett Favre. ;) <br /><br />Now the home-field advantage is at least worth one touchdown, in my opinion.<br /><br />It is definetly an up-hill battle for my beloved Titans, but I look at it this way, if we can beat the Pats on their field in the playoffs, then we can beat anybody else that is left. Hows the old saying go, "Gotta beat the best, to be the best".<br /><br />......and I know, i'm one of those fans that say "we" when I talk about the teams that I like. :p
 

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I'm not anti-Titan by any stretch, but I just don't see McNair as co-MVP. They pulled a bag of chips out of O'Donnell's hands, pulled him off of the couch and said go throw the ball, and he put up awesome numbers. The MVP makes the people around him look better, the people around the MVP shouldn't have to make him look better than he is, IMO.
 

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mines in the shop so ya don't want it i'm the only one crazy enough to beat on a boat that pretty as far as philly is concernd it is the pac all the way been working and was in fl for 2 weeks and putter is acting up
 

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Guageguy,<br />A few points I would like to make. Neil O'Donnell may be in the twilight of his career, but make no mistake about it, he is still a good quarterback. Don't forget that he has been to two superbowls, and was the starter in one of them. But you can't judge a Quarterback on one game. If O'Donnell was as good as McNair, he wouldn't have been at home on the couch eating chips. :p <br />Why do you think the Titans went and got O'Donnell anyway?.............because he was a backup to McNair for years and he knows the playbook. I hardly think any Quarterback could come in and do what O'Donnell did without being very familiar with the system.<br /><br />Name another receiver, besides Mason, (without cheating), for the Titans...............ain't easy is it. The Titans hardly have well known receivers. <br /><br />Now, as for why McNair was voted co-mvp, I will compare his numbers with Tom Brady:<br /><br />.......................McNair.......Brady<br />Comp-----------250----------317<br />Att------------400----------527<br />Yds-----------3215---------3620<br />Cmp%----------62.5---------60.2<br />Yds/A----------8.04---------6.87<br />TD--------------24-----------23<br />TD%-----------6.0----------4.4<br />Int--------------7------------12<br />Int%-----------1.8----------2.3<br />Sacked----------19-----------32<br />QB Rating------100.4--------85.9<br /><br />Thats just a comparison with Brady, since thats who the Titans are playing. McNair had 127 fewer attempts and has more TD's. ;) <br /><br />I'm sorry, but those are MVP numbers, and McNair didn't even play in one regular season game at all, (BTW-these are all regular season numbers).<br /><br />Ralph, I figured you would appreciate my research. :D <br /><br />McNair makes everyone around him better, and thats why he's co-MVP. :)
 

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Carp, that's great stuff. I am really surprised that, all things considered, Brady compares so well. I wouldn't have guessed it. The Pats are very conservative offensively. Lots of short screens and dumps. Brady's skill is his ability to remain calm and make very big playes under pressure. It is like he only makes big plays when the game is on the line.<br /><br />Does anybody know how QB ratings are calculated?
 

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St Louis<br />New England<br />Indy<br />Green Bay
 

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..................McNair..............Brady.............green....<br />Comp-----------250----------317----------330-----<br />Att------------400----------527----------523-----<br />Yds-----------3215---------3620----------4039----<br />Cmp%----------62.5---------60.2----------63.1----<br />Yds/A----------8.04---------6.87---------7.7-----<br />TD--------------24-----------23----------26------<br />TD%-----------6.0----------4.4-----------?-------<br />Int--------------7------------12---------12------<br />Int%-----------1.8----------2.3----------?-------<br />Sacked----------19-----------32----------?-------<br />QB Rating------100.4--------85.9---------92.6----<br /><br />priest holmes<br />rushing yds------1420<br />rec yds----------690<br />td's-------------27<br />fumbles----------1<br /><br />over rated?--------i think not! :rolleyes: <br />definately a winning combo! ;) <br />defense is suspect but with the offense, they can score with anyone. :p
 

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..............McNair.........Brady.......Manning<br />Comp-----------250----------317----------379-----<br />Att------------400----------527----------566-----<br />Yds-----------3215---------3620----------4267----<br />Cmp%----------62.5---------60.2----------67.0----<br />Yds/A----------8.04---------6.87---------7.5-----<br />TD--------------24-----------23----------29------<br />TD%-----------6.0----------4.4-----------?-------<br />Int--------------7------------12---------10------<br />Int%-----------1.8----------2.3----------?-------<br />Sacked----------19-----------32----------?-------<br />QB Rating------100.4--------85.9---------99----
 

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I just did a little checking and there is plenty of room on the Packer bandwagon for everyone!!! :) <br /><br />Regardless of the Vegas line, who do you all want to see win? Doesn't anyone else find Tennessee boring to watch. And who knows which Indianapolis team will show up week to week. The Patriots, Where is the balance? Kansas City, Does anyone want them to win??? :p <br /><br />As a town of 90,000 who has had a viable team since the NFL started, We have lots of room for everyone. Please buy a licenced hat and jacket.. :p (I wonder why LA can't sustain a team? There are more people in LA than the entire state of Wisconsin..<br /><br />Go Pack!!! :cool: :cool: :cool:
 
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