OIL COMPANY'S PROFIT!!!!

dtherrien

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Did anybody catch the news the other night . They were talking about what the top three oil companies have made in profit , in the last three months. It was about $10billion for each. Be nice to make that kind of money...just once. As with any kind of corperation...you gotta be screwing people to make that kind of money.
 

springhead

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Re: OIL COMPANY'S PROFIT!!!!

I think you missed a zero in there,<br />I read today that Exxon Mobile made 100 billion in the last quarter. and yes we are getting the shaft.
 

rodbolt

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yall are just jealous, its the merican way. claim free market but quietly pass rules and laws to exlude others :) . the electric companies got regulated yaesr ago because of this. its time to regulate oil like electricity.
 

pjc

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what rodbolt said, much as I find regulation a hindrance to the free market.<br /><br />Seems that electric cos. became regulated due to the necessary "hard" infrastructure required for distribution of the product. As well as the necessity of electricity. <br /><br />Was a time the petrol industry was not of this nature. Snap forward to today with "hard" pipelines, and necessity, is reasonable to compare the petrol industry with electric. <br /><br />OR.....we can begin a program of "gas" assistance to lower income qualified peoples, much like the gov provides "energy" assistance to same. "give them the gallons" Jesse says!
 

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The 100 billion was income. Profit was under 10 billion. That was ExxonMobil only.<br /><br />ExxonMobil SPENT over 90 billion to earn less than a 10% profit. The others spent less and earned less.<br /><br />Since when is less than 10% profit screwing somebody??<br /><br />The media are carefully LYING to the public by leaving out the key fact: what did it COST to earn that much?<br /><br />If you want somebody to blame for the high price of oil, and the high price of gasoline blame congress, who have inhibited growth in supply.<br /><br />GWB tried to provide incentives and to open new fields, but they told him to go take a leak up a rope.
 

Chief101

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I'd love to run a business wheras as my costs increase so do my profits...something wrong with that scenario. If the oil companies can get the cost of their raw materials to increase they can earn more cash...go figure, it just don't work that way for the rest of us you know. ;)
 

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Originally posted by JB:<br />Since when is less than 10% profit screwing somebody??
10% is a GREAT profit! Many business owners would kill for that. Throw in the fact that we've just had multiple major disasters, aimed right at the oil companies, and it's absolutely ridiculous. With all that's gone on this quarter, their profits should have gone DOWN. <br /><br />What other business gets hit by a train, and STILL posts record profits by screwing it's customers?<br /><br />It is time to regulate. Oil is exactly the same as electricity and natural gas. Why should it be excluded?
 

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ExxonMobil SPENT over 90 billion to earn less than a 10% profit.
Not all of that 90 billion was their money. A good portion of it was taxpayer money (subsidys). <br />And another portion of it was accelerated depreciation that is loopholed(bought legislation)on the taxpayers back. <br />And another portion was tax incentives (more bought legislation)to make infrastructure investments that have been ignored for decades.<br />The numbers no doubt already reflect the taxmoney that was given to them by Congress and GW in the energy bill that was signed a few months ago.<br /><br />If your going to shout "LYING" might as well line all of them up. <br />It's extremely likely the numbers are only the reported numbers and is a small portion of their actual profits that isn't reported.
 

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would you be an advocate of "gas" assistance for folks who qualify JB?.. <br /><br />As I post our pols are looking for additional "heating" assistance for qualified folks due to the anticipated increase in heating (oil, nat gas, elect) costs this season. Why not gasoline assistance??????<br /><br />I do understand what you post JB, but in my state of WI, the electric utilities have record profits, NET profits, yet still ask the Public Service Commission who oversee the Utilities for rate increases. Go Figure.
 

rodbolt

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PJC<br /> wow we kind of agree :) <br />by regulate I mean similar to how electric companies are due to the hard infastructure required. many years ago, and JB most likly remembers, there were many independant oil companies and refineries, with ever increasing production and infastructure costs most all have been eliminated creating a global monopoly.
 

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True "free-market" is a level playing field.<br />If a level playing field is perverted by governmental manipulation or monopolies then regulation is in order.<br />
If you want somebody to blame for the high price of oil, and the high price of gasoline blame congress, who have inhibited growth in supply.
I would like to learn how this is done.
 

tommays

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YOU PASS ENVIROMENTAL LAWS that make it almost inpossable for a new company to get into the game<br /><br />i was always supprised big oil let so may laws get passed that made it hard to build refinerys but in the end it seems to have worked out well for them<br /><br /><br />tommays
 

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I knew someone would get around to blaming environmentalists. <br /><br />And I can't believe all you conservatives want to step into the middle of a free market at the first sign it may negatively affect you.<br /><br />And so many want to criticize oil companies for not keeping things like "The National Good" (whatever that is) in mind.<br /><br />Oil companies are in business to make a profit. There is no such thing as "Too much profit".<br /><br />They are not there to protect the national good, nor is there any requirement that you somehow "deserve" cheap gas.<br /><br />Our representatives are in charge of protecting the national good. That includes economic, environmental, national security factors among others.<br /><br />Gas prices will modify depending on supply and demand. Demand will decrease when prices increase, and, as GM will find out, large vehicles will become less popular.<br /><br />There are lots of ways to decrease demand. legislators can vote to build an efficient public transportation system, and get lots of cars off the road. We can mount an Apollo like effort to develop alternate energy sources. There are all sorts of ways to do it.<br /><br />Frankly, I can understand the oil companies not wanting to invest the billions into new refinery capacity. As crude becomes more scarce, and costly, eventually we will be forced to develop alternatives, and that new refinery capacity will be worthless.<br /><br />In the meantime, don't expect oil companies to do anything more than attempt to maximize their profits. That is all they are designed, or are capable, of doing.
 

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Quote PY2: "And so many want to criticize oil companies for not keeping things like "The National Good" (whatever that is) in mind."<br /><br />Is not that what "environmentalists" do...claim their goals are for "The National Good", and "for the wildlife", and "for our children, and their children". The future generation deal.<br /><br />Werks both ways IMO.
 

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Well, for a change I agree with PW2.<br /><br />Capitalism is a terrible system. . . .except for all the others.
 

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I hate to say it, but capitalism is not being allowed to function in the case of Big Oil. As they partner up, combine, buy each other out, they are becoming a single entity. If you don't think these companies are in colusion to keep prices and profits up, you are seriously deluded. There is no competition, no reason for prices to drop significantly. Government can't do anything about it, and they shouldn't. It is an unfortunate reality that our entire way of life is dependant on these organizaitons, and they know it. It is no different than the medical field. Need a new heart? pony up the couple hundred grand, cause you can't go to Wal-mart to get a new heart. Same thing with Big Oil. They have 100% control over the single most necessary product on this planet, why should they give it away? <br /><br />People are reacting. New SUV sales are dropping. Every car lot in my town is packed with shiny used SUVs with rock bottom prices as people are replacing them with smaller more efficient SUVs or cars. We as a people can affect fuel prices, but Big Oil will make their money in other ways. That plastic TV will cost more, or all that bottled water (another clear example of stupidity-buy a damn Britta filter and get the same thing people) will cost more. It isn't just about gas prices, they will still make their money even if we started riding bicycles tomorrow.
 

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Good post JasonJ,<br />My niece just called me to get advice on a good used car, and I gave her a list of about a half dozen of my old car selling buddies to try to hook her up with good economical car under 10k.<br />And your absolutely right, they have trucks and SUV coming out of their ears, but she couldn't find any small econimical cars under 10k.
 

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At one of my lots they have a 94 Ford F250 4x4 with the 460 for $2400. It is in excellent condition, and should be priced at least 2-3 times what they are asking. People around here are starting to do the math. My boss bought a GMC Yukon a few years ago because they "needed" it for the kids and all that. They used to have a Honda Civic sedan and it was "too small". Guess what, now they are talking about getting rid of the Yukon to get, you guessed it, a fuel efficient sedan or something like it. <br /><br />If my 95 F150 wasn't paid for, and I drove it more than 30-ish miles a week, I would rid myself of it. It does do the one thing I need it to, tow my boat.I usually only need to fill one of its tanks per month, so my frugal driving is paying off.
 

Skinnywater

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YOU PASS ENVIROMENTAL LAWS that make it almost inpossable for a new company to get into the game<br />
Take a look at a red/blue map of the US and the "environmental" arguement goes out the window.<br />There is ample room for "state of the art" refineries.<br />
Our representatives are in charge of protecting the national good.
And by representing the people. Representing megabusiness shouldn't be in conflict with that responsibility.<br />
Capitalism is a terrible system. . . .except for all the others.
And capitalism is as bad as any other without a free-market.<br /><br />Let's see what the DOE has to say about it.<br /> http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/usa.html <br />I don't see anything here that suggests Congress or the environmentalists having any impact on oil supply. In fact I see a very healthy outlook for a very healthy business.<br /><br />The only logical arguement is for a level playing field for an alternative source of energy to be developed.<br />Personally I'd be for $6.00 a gallon myself if it were not manipulated (perverted)by forces other than a free-market.<br />The eventual alternative would at least give me the option of not supporting my enemy in a time of war....and potentially free-up rightious tax incentives that will outlast the oil fields. I want a choice in that competition, especially if it relys on a piece of my tax dollar.<br />All the sudden your brand of Capitalism doesn't sound so good does it?
 

ZmOz

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Originally posted by PW2:<br />Our representatives are in charge of protecting the national good. That includes economic, environmental, national security factors among others.
And controlling gas prices would be part of protecting the national good. Do you think this is good for our economy?<br /><br />As I asked before, how are oil companies any different from natural gas and electric companies that are regulated, and needed to be?
 
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