Replacing rectifier - 115 Merc

pjacob01

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I am trying to replace the 3 post rectifier on a 1990 115 Merc, model# 1115412L, serial# 0D049368. I have purchased a Sierra rectifier from a local repair shop which has a part# of 18-5707. The only markings on the Sierra rectifier is a + sign. I'm confused where to connect the wires on the new one. The defective one is a Merc part which is marked. <br />I'd appreciate any help you guys can give me. <br />Thanks.
 

kenneymc

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Re: Replacing rectifier - 115 Merc

The post for the + terminal goes to the wire to the battery. This a DC voltage.<br /><br />The other 2 "non +" terminals have the 2 wires from the stator connected to them. These are both an AC voltage.
 

pjacob01

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Re: Replacing rectifier - 115 Merc

kenneymc, <br />Thanks for your help, this has brought the tach back to life but doesn't appear to be charging, It would read 12.2 with the motor running. My next step is to fully charge the battery. <br />I''m guessing I should see a 13 - 13.5v with the motor running. <br /><br />To sectionalize the trouble between the stator and voltage regulator rectifier: What should I see for voltage from the stator? Resistance reading while disconnected from the rectifier?<br /><br />Voltage regulator: Resistance and voltage tests? <br /><br />Thanks again, <br />outahere
 

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Re: Replacing rectifier - 115 Merc

Below are readings I got after replacing my rectifier on my 76 115hp Merc.<br />>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br />Battery w/motor off = 13.33vdc<br /><br />Battery at idle = 14.35vdc / 5.6amps<br /><br />Battery motor idled up some = 14.90vdc / 6amps<br /><br />Readings at rectifier/ motor idling:<br />non + =8.3vac / .7amps<br />other non + = 8.3vac / .7amps<br />+ = 14.35vdc / 5.65 amps <br />>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br /><br />First thing I would do is check the voltage on the rectifier itself. Just be careful. <br /><br />Check the "+" terminal. Measure from it to a good ground with motor idling on muffs. Verify against my readings above. NOTE: this is a DC voltage, so set meter accordingly.<br /><br />Then check the 2 "non+" one at a time to ground and verify against above readings. NOTE: this is an AC voltage, so set meter accordingly.<br /><br />This will do 2 things: Let us know if a wire is broken from + terminal to the battery or not. Also will verify whether the stator is putting out AC voltage to rectifier or not. Although no AC voltage to rectifier could be a bad wire also.<br /><br />Let me know....
 

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Re: Replacing rectifier - 115 Merc

You're fine with 14 to 14.5 VDC. Check voltage across battery terminals with motor running with a voltmeter. Battery voltage not running should be ~ 12.68 vdc for a fully charged battery.<br /><br />I would not believe 13.3 vdc with motor off. Try another meter.
 

pjacob01

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Re: Replacing rectifier - 115 Merc

Thanks guys, <br /><br />Here's the results I found from a freshly charged battery: <br />Battery w/motor off: 13.58v<br />Battery @ idle: 13.33v<br />Battery w/ motor idled up @ 3000 rpm: 13.33v<br /><br />Rectifier readings w/ motor idling: <br />Non +: 8.91vac<br />Other non +: .65vac<br />+ : 8.71vdc<br /><br />Although the initial battery readings were high, the voltage is dropping slowly to the 12+ volt range. This is known good additional battery I have. <br /><br />I don't have an ampmeter to check the current. I may be able to get my hands on one later this afternoon. <br /><br />Outahere
 

kenneymc

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Re: Replacing rectifier - 115 Merc

Your battery doesn't seem to be charging. You should have seen an increase in voltage across the battery when you cranked it and it was idling. <br /><br />Also on my boat, when reading the + terminal on the rectifier, it was the same voltage as reading across the battery.<br /><br />Another prob is on your "other non +" you read .65vac. This should have been about equal to the non + of 8.91vac. Seems rectifier is not getting correct amount of AC voltage from stator due to the one reading being way too low, this in turn would cause the rectifier not to put out and adequate amount of DC voltage to the battery. Does that make sense?<br /><br />I would start there, trace out wires, make sure nothing is broken on the weak non + wire. Could also try to un hook it from the rectifier, then read it (careful dont get it against a ground)with motor at idle. If it is 8.91vac unhooked from rectifier, you might have gotten a bad rectifier that is loading it down or shorting it. If not good then look backwards toward stator wires, etc.<br /><br />I know for sure my readings are accurate on mine. Even the 13.33 vdc across battery with motor off. I have 2 fluke multi meter's. One I use at work, and gets calibrated annually.<br /><br />If I am wrong, I am sure someone will correct me.
 

Ben Konopacky

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Re: Replacing rectifier - 115 Merc

Hi outahere; get the manual out disconnect wires from rectifier check diodes on rect. and windings on stator, grd./short.. something has to be bad to cause a problem.
 

pjacob01

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Re: Replacing rectifier - 115 Merc

I broke down and purchased a Clymer shop manual, I should have done this earlier. <br />The manual says there should be 1.0-1.5 on a Rx1 scale on each stator lead to ground. There should not be any continuity on a Rx1000 scale. <br />I didn't have any continuity on either leg of the stator, this test was done with a digital meter. <br /><br />I think I'm screwed and will have to make an appointment at a repair shop. <br /><br />Outahere....
 

Ben Konopacky

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Re: Replacing rectifier - 115 Merc

outahere; read the instructions over!Idon't think its to grd.its across the yellow stator wires. From the yollow to grd .should read infinity.BACK TO THE BOOK ,Good Luck
 

pjacob01

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Re: Replacing rectifier - 115 Merc

Ben Lucky, <br />I purchase a manual and don't read it thoroughly, what a bonehead. <br /><br />You are correct, this is across the stator, I checked these this morning and am seeing .3 ohms. <br /><br />This should read 1.0 to 1.5 or less. Am I still out of luck?<br />Thanks for your help. <br /><br />Outahere.....
 

Ben Konopacky

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Re: Replacing rectifier - 115 Merc

it still could be good,as long as its not grounded. check from each lead to grd.should not have any or very high res. on Rx10k scale. or go what the manual...
 
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