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Going back, maybe four months ago my best friend emitted that he had a "crush" on a girl from our school. She's a year younger then him and I, we are 17 she's 16. I had a gf at the time he told me this. Me, along with a lot of other people tried REALLY hard to set them up. Him and her double dated together like every night for about two weeks. Apparently, he never made a move on her, and she was basically not interested. She ended up blowing him off, stopped answering his calls,,, ect. Well, he was pretty depressed about it. I have quite a few "close" friends,, him,, im the only one he's got. He considers me his best friend, he is a really close friend to me, someone i feel i can always depend on and trust to have my back.<br /><br />He hasn't talked to the girl in close to two months now, and even when they did talk it wasn't like deep conversations or anything. She never had any interest in him, he knows and emits it.<br /><br />This girl has some issues, she has no parents. They are both in rehab hospitals, she hasn't seen or talked to either of them since she was young. Her "legal custody" has been passed around quite a bit, just recently her adopted grandmother died, the one person she's known as a mother figure for the longest. Then she was told that she was going to movein with an uncle, she was all ready to make the move and his a-hole hangs himself. She's now living with another family is a temporary situation, but will have to move again sometime in the near future.<br /><br />She gets dropped off right down the street from my work after school everyday, I've been driving her home for about two months. Never hung out with her, just rides home. Well, the last two weeks or so I've been talking to her online and on the phone quite a bit, not just casual talking, she's told me all about her past, parents,, ect... My friend found out her and i where talking, seemed pissed and bummed out about the whole thing, but told me he has no reasons to be mad at anyone and "it shouldn't bother him" last night i talked to him online, and told him that i wanted to let him know that i was going to hang out with her, and me "hooking up" with her wasn't out of the question. This morning, he didn't come to school. He's like me, never misses school, especially on the friday, test day.<br />I called around noon from school, he didn't answer. Tonight the girl and I went on what i guess you could call a date. Me, her, a buddy of mine and his girlfriend. It went well, i didn't try to come on to her, or even touch her at all, but im interested in getting involved with her.<br /><br />Well, while the four of us are on this "date" we are at my friends house, the 4 of us sitting in his room. Out of nowhere my friend (the one im with) calls my other friend (one i haven't heard from all day) and asks why he wasn't in school. His response was "various reasons i dont wanna talk about" he then asked him if he'd heard from me, and he said "he called me" but said he didn't call me back.<br /><br />It seem to me, that me and his girl could be part of the reason he missed school today, this is a huge deal to me, and im really at a loss as to what im going to do about it, talk about sensative situation<br />Any suggestions?
 
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She gets dropped off right down the street from my work after school everyday, I've been driving her home for about two months. Never hung out with her, just rides home.
Ryan,<br /><br />A word of caution. That gesture is very gentlemanly. However, you are putting yourself at serious risk. If she claims you tried something-you're guilty-until proven innocent.<br /><br />A sad statement, but true. :( <br /><br />You can be a friend-I recommend it, just be aware of your surroundings.
 

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Ryan, let this one slip by for the sake of a friend. Some people just are not as socially fluid as you are and these kind of things hurt them. As you know there are many fish in the sea for one such as yourself. Take the high road. Besides, this girl kind of sounds like another one that is beneath what you are capable of. <br /><br />A little fling to prove your prowess might do more damage than it would be worth.<br /><br />Just my .02$
 

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I gotta go with boomyal. Sometimes being a friend means letting one go. Sure, you could rationalize it to be Ok. Being a man and a good friend some times means letting one slip away.
 

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I wonte to see what everyone else said first to see if my first reaction was right, seems to me it was, Drop her befour you get envolved further, good friends are hard to replace. and sounds to me like she probably has some issues to resolve herself.
 

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I completely agree with what has already been said. Have you ever heard the statement, "bros over hoes" it sounds funny, but your friends will always be around, even after the girl is long gone! As long as you don't betray them!
 

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Your best bet would be to separate yourself from this mess, even if it means loosing a friend or two. It sounds like a very sad and complicated situation and you are a very caring kid and you really want to help out. But you have to realize that people especially women will use you if the opportunity arises. If she really wanted help and someone to talk to she would get it from her close girlfriends. Face it Girls never go to guys for emotional closure.<br /><br />
Well, the last two weeks or so I've been talking to her online and on the phone quite a bit, not just casual talking, she's told me all about her past, parents,, ect...
Never get into conversations like this online, these can be easily saved, also phone calls can be recorded. You should be keeping a log of every conversation with her/him/them. Many IM programs have a feature that saves every conversation you have on AOLIM I have used these programs more then once to get me out of a jam (once with a gf thing and another time someone was accusing me of saying something I did not say, and I was able to prove it.) I know it sounds harsh to keep track of everything but like what DJ said you can never be to careful. <br /><br />
This girl has some issues, she has no parents
her adopted grandmother died
ready to make the move and his a-hole hangs himself
You don't want that Karma coming over to you...<br /><br />
Tonight the girl and I went on what i guess you could call a date
:confused: Were you on a date with the Miss Misfortunate or someone else? <br /><br />
that me and his girl could be part of the reason he missed school today
Just leave it alone! Even if you did help out and tell his parents, or the school and his whole life changed for the good HE WILL never be as a good as a friend. No one likes friends who are tattle tales, I know we all think that we want friends who look out for us, but then all of us b**ch about it when someone does look out for us.
 

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Thats more baggage than what my back can carry. Plus, your bro can back the trailer into the water better than her anyway. :D
 

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well after watching this stuff over 20 years I can tell ya one thing, back away from both,both have issues you cannot solve and if your close by will be blamed for.<br />thats why I say youth is wasted on the young, by the time ya get old enough to know better ya no longer care :) .<br />all jokes aside.<br /> trust me on this. until both those involved decide to aid themselves there is nothing you can do.<br />if you have concerns take them up with the school administration.<br />you have neither the training nor the mileage to handle the issues your getting ready to open.
 

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I've talked to my friend a bit, starting right after sumiting this thread actually.<br /><br />He told me he didnt go to school because he was feelin like crap this moring, but was better by afternoon. I told him I went out with her tonight, said i wanted him to hear it from me first. He didnt see too upset about me going out with her. I told him the only way we'd get "involved" will be if she gives that empression, told him i wasnt going to chase her. I told him i didnt want to cause prolbems, and that i expected to be friends with him for a lot longer then her anyway. He seems to understand, I'm takin a little road trip with him tomorow to pick up a hard to find rust free rear bumper for his caddy, so I'll get a better sense of him then. <br /><br />He hasnt told me flat out no, but he hasnt said to go for it either, thats kinda what I'm waiting for.<br /><br />I know the girl sounds like a mess, but she really is wicked nice. I've had a little crush on her i guess you could say since the first time i met her, but her and i where never availabe at the same time. <br /><br />Since my last "serious relationship :rolleyes: " that ended with the girl being a total worthless *****bag,, I've been a bit bitter on the girls subject, and have messed around with a few that i r have/had no real fealings for. Well,, this girl is different. Being the situation shes in, and knowing how long it took for her to get over her last bf, who dumped her,, I honestley dont want to hurt her, or give her any more problems If i get involved with asking her out, im going to make sure im in it for the long term.<br /><br />I'll have a better idea after i spend some time with my buddy tomorrow.
 

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Ryan, we have told you in the past to stay away, and don't be involved with what in essence is damaged goods, but I have yet to see you take anyones advise. You post and overwhelming advice is to back off and you do what you want. Why post?<br /><br />I have yet to see you date a girl with a complete compliment of parents or consistant emplyoment, yet I keep hearing how much money your father makes and how big your house is.<br /><br />Tell you what, find a girl with two parents, doesn't spend $300 a month on her hair, and can pass basic math and let us know what her intentions are after high school and we will let you know what to do.<br /><br />Otherwise, this is just an exercise in your hormonal maturation.<br /><br />Note: Don't screw your friends. EVER!!! A mans life can be measured by his friends and how they are viewed by them.
 

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I remember high school... but it wasn't like this.
 

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Originally posted by POINTER94:<br /> Ryan, we have told you in the past to stay away, and don't be involved with what in essence is damaged goods, but I have yet to see you take anyones advise. You post and overwhelming advice is to back off and you do what you want. Why post?<br /><br />I have yet to see you date a girl with a complete compliment of parents or consistant emplyoment, yet I keep hearing how much money your father makes and how big your house is.<br /><br />Tell you what, find a girl with two parents, doesn't spend $300 a month on her hair, and can pass basic math and let us know what her intentions are after high school and we will let you know what to do.<br /><br />Otherwise, this is just an exercise in your hormonal maturation.<br /><br />Note: Don't screw your friends. EVER!!! A mans life can be measured by his friends and how they are viewed by them.
Spot on Pointer. I think we just went thru this not to long ago. Come on Ryan, listen to people that have been there, done that. They won't lie to ya.<br /><br />If your friend had a thing for this girl in the past, it don't matter if he was to tell ya to go for it, it would still hurt him.<br />Friends are forever Ryan, think about it.
 

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Ryan, Ryan, Ryan. You seem to attract the wrong ones every time, like a magnet.<br /><br />You're too young to take on someone elses' problems, especially ones of this magnitude. Your new girlfriend could probably use professional help to help her deal with everything. They offer free services to those in need who can't afford it.<br /><br />You can't be her hero, she needs more. In the meantime, she will wear you down, you will lose your friend, and you my friend, will end up with nothing. <br /><br />Take our advice, the race is not worth the prize in this situation.<br /><br />P.S. PLEASE, do me a favor and don't refer to any girl as a "total worthless *****bag." It's just plain wrong.
 

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High School was exactly like that in the small town I went to school in in the 40s.<br /><br />Adolescence was very close to just like that, too.<br /><br />It is an emotionally very hard time. . .for you, your friend, the girl. . .everyone that age.<br /><br />Massive doses of hormones and little experience dealing with them make all emotions more intense. Small disappointments become catastrophes, attractions become desperate longings. "Sensitive situations" are a daily occurrance.<br /><br />The best you can do is show compassion for your friend's disappointment and avoid making it worse. In the long run his friendship will be a lot more valuable than whatever might come of an involvement with the girl.<br /><br />I know you may not take our advice, but here it is anyway. Not agreeing is not the same as not listening.
 

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Sometimes people are attracked to the ones that have problams,need help,or you just feel sorry for them.dont get trapped in this,theres alot more baggage here than is on the surface and alot of drama may come out of this.Even though your friend hasnt said ya or na,thats a reason not to.he is bothered with this but want never tell you its a man thing.real good friends are hard to find,are you as good of a friend?dont let the little head do all your thinking when it comes to the girls.I think its time to go trolling.
 

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One more thing what do want a serious relationship for?it's almost summer and you got college to look forward to.college means college girls :D
 

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Originally posted by RubberFrog:<br /> I gotta go with boomyal.
The two of you are going to make the cutest couple.<br /> :D :D :D <br /><br />(You probably can't tell but I'm bored.)
 

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Not agreeing is not the same as not listening.
I agree with what everyone says about the friend being around longer then the girl, and (bros before hoes), but,, I dont agree with everyones opioun of the girl. I told you about all the issues shes had,, girls had a tough life, but I only know these things cause she told me, not because shes a odvious wreak. She doesnt do drugs or anything, shes not a *****, cleaner then most. She also just got her first job a few weeks ago, she got a job all on her own, with no set way of even getting to it everyday, but has manged to get rides everyday shes had work so far. The whole getting a job thing empressed me. In school, she does very well. In terms of "book smarts" I'd say shes smarter then I am. I guess you could say she "sets goals" because the reason for the job is sospose to be for a car insurance when she gets in licence, which is I think four months away. For someone in her situation, she does very well.<br /><br />After my little "road trip" with my buddy I'll have a better idea, but I will pass her up if I have to.
 

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I disagree with most of the responses.<br /><br />You don't "own" anyone else, or get to choose who anyone else wants to be with, or doesn't.<br /><br />If that costs you this guy's frienship, so be it. If he doesn't understand that he's not much of a friend.<br /><br />That's not to say that this girl sounds like she is some fantastic find--she sounds like she comes with a fair bit of baggage, but so do we all in one degree or another.<br /><br />You don't learn much by not taking some chances, or not making mistakes. The key is to limit the downside risk, and not do something too stupid in the meantime.<br /><br />At your age, mostly there is always a downside, and the question is not if the downside will materialize, but just when it will happen.<br /><br />In the meantime, do what feels right to you, and expect others to do what feels right to them, and not worry about them.
 
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