Should I replace the transom or sell the boat as a project?

smokeonthewater

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Re: Should I replace the transom or sell the boat as a project?

there are PLENTY of skilled fiberglass repair guys right here at IBOATS that will walk him through every detail... no reason at all that a high school senior couldn't do it
 

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there are PLENTY of skilled fiberglass repair guys right here at IBOATS that will walk him through every detail... no reason at all that a high school senior couldn't do it

true and I never said he wouldn't be able to do it but there is also a HUGE difference between having someone to show you how to do it versus explaining things and being on the same page using instructions versus someone to instruct you.

you cant see what he sees unless you are there, and pictures don't show everything and if you aren't there you cant see things that he wouldn't notice or know to mention.

how many times have people said something in a post that wasn't understood correctly? anyone can do anything if they are willing to try but people still cant see with someone elses eyes and if you aren't there to point things out and see it on their face if they truly understand what you are saying then it just is not the same.
 
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blah blah blah..... If he is willing to do the work and actually do as he is told I have every confidence that the gurus here can and will hold his hand and walk him through the steps involved........

I have seen PLENTY of people with no prior knowledge end up with an excellent restoration.... This isn't rocket science.... cut out the bad and glass in the new.

True though, that if he's hard headed like some people then yes he will struggle.
 

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I think I could do it but finding the time to complete the project would be hard because I take high school classes and also am taking some college classes to get ahead so I don't have much free time to attempt this extensive of a project. I wish I had the time to do a project like this because I really want to learn how to but it just doesn't seem feasible right now. Thanks for all the replys
 

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very understandable.... just keep in mind that whatever way you decide to go we are here to help....

We knocked out a new transom, stringers and floor in my buddy's 17' cimaron bass boat in a few weekends so if summer rolls around and you still haven't found that perfect deal on a hull you'll know a rebuild is an option but if not that's fine too.
 

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If you are not qualified in using fiberglass matt and resins; don't attempt this project. Replacing the wood is no big deal but getting the strength from the glass cloth to the wood is critical. Any air holes where the resin hasn't sealed properly will cause weakness within the mold porject. There is a company called Ceconite in los Angeles that sells the cloth and resins compounds for the untrlight wings of airplanes. Ask them for products and info on uasing the resins and hot mix to seal properly. Good luck.
 
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I think I could do it but finding the time to complete the project would be hard because I take high school classes and also am taking some college classes to get ahead so I don't have much free time to attempt this extensive of a project. I wish I had the time to do a project like this because I really want to learn how to but it just doesn't seem feasible right now. Thanks for all the replys

It sounds like you've got your priorities straight. I know it's frustrating to get a boat and then find out that it has major issues, but on the up side you got a heck of a deal and should come out ahead whether you sell it as a project or part it out.
 

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If you are not qualified in using fiberglass matt and resins; don't attempt this project. Replacing the wood is no big deal but getting the strength from the glass cloth to the wood is critical. Any air holes where the resin hasn't sealed properly will cause weakness within the mold porject. There is a company called Ceconite in los Angeles that sells the cloth and resins compounds for the untrlight wings of airplanes. Ask them for products and info on uasing the resins and hot mix to seal properly. Good luck.

exactly, even though some people want to make it sound like it is so easy and anyone can do it so easily, like there is nothing to it, just by following a few simple directions.

I have seen and repaired dozens of bad transom repairs and cracked seams because there are things and shapes that fiberglass can and cannot do without cracking and weekend warriors reading directions can really mess things up. I have seen a few transoms that were rock solid and well done except they weren't bonded well and unlaminated from the boat over time. there is one motor and transom still out in the middle of the lake with half of the steering console but luckily no one was hurt (thank god) and surprisingly the boat didn't even sink so I was able to tow it and them back to the launch.

anyone can mix and lay fiberglass and have a perfectly suitable and strong repair but not many can do it correctly for the absolute best strength and bond without getting air pockets. many people do lots of fiberglass repairs every day and get away with a lot of subpar repairs that aren't obvious or visible.

you don't want to be trusting your life and possibly your family lives to a transom repair done by a first timer who may not even be handy with tools and using other peoples opinions and forum instructions. if it were any other repair it would be different since you are only risking having the motor come in the boat with you.
 
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Re: Should I replace the transom or sell the boat as a project?

^^^ If this is correct then why do we have Boat Restoration , Building, and Hull Repair section on the forum .. ^^^
 

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^^^ If this is correct then why do we have Boat Restoration , Building, and Hull Repair section on the forum .. ^^^

+1,000 -- replacing a transom is not rocket science, especially with the help of everyone in the restoration forum. I am a CPA who could hardly even make a straight cut in a piece of wood when I started. My stringers and deck came out a OK (but better than the original shoddy glass job) and I am certain my transom is rock solid.

The experts walk you through it step by step (plenty of videos) and see and comment on your work after you upload pictures. Many of the jobs done on the resto forum turn out stronger than when the boat was new.

I wouldn't have tried it on my own, but the resources in this forum make it doable.
 

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I would recommend at least taking your boat apart if you then find it's more work then you can handle you will have a started project you can sell to someone else.
 

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I'll also add that the guru's in the resto threads will not hesitate to say "no you messed up cut it out and try again" safety is the number one priority and IF a person will do as they say and keep in contact with every step the chance of a good final result is near 100%

of course there is always some risk of error on an diy but then there is some risk of error if you pay a professional.... there's a reason we get warranties..... sometimes we need em
 

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Well I think I have come to a conclusion. I'm going to sell this boat as a project or part it out and save my money from it and save my money through the summer and buy a decent 16-20 ft center console because my friend just bought a 20 ft bass boat we can fish our tournaments out of and I like the versatility factor of a center console and also becaus my dad and i like to go to the coast every now and then and fish for inshore fish. Thanks for everyone's input.
 

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Good luck...good call.
 

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Would I be better off to try and sell the boat as a whole or part it out?
 
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Would I be better off to try and sell the boat as a whole or part it out?

IMO it'll be less hassle to sell it as a project, but you'll get more money from it if you part it out. You'll want to be able to demonstrate that the engine and trolling motor function, and be ready to let potential buyers check engine compression. Also, if you chose to part it out you'll need to have an engine hoist on hand to safely remove the engine and get it into a truck or on a trailer.
 

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I will probably just sell it all together as a project. I am going to be selling it without the trolling motor or fish finders because I am going to use them on my smaller boat and/or next boat. I just don't know what to ask for the boat price wise.
 

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Re: Should I replace the transom or sell the boat as a project?

What do y'all think would be a good price to ask as a package? The motor is a 1992 mariner magnum III which is the mercury xr6 and it just got a rebuilt lower unit off a mercury 200. The boat is a 92 skeeter 175sf and the seats are in good shape as is the exterior of the hull. It has the factory skeeter trailer in good shape also.
 

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as a package, the boat is garbage that hurts the value of the trailer and motor..... If you were local to me I'd offer you your $600 back for it and I'd pay about $50 to the landfill to get rid of the hull... Then I'd sell the trailer for $300-$500 and hang my new almost free motor on the back of my V20

If you do a compression check on the engine and all (take a picture of the gauge on each cylinder for your buyer) is well you can likely get $1500 or more for it alone and the amount I mentioned above for the trailer but you will have to ditch the hull.
 

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I already compression tested the motor and its 115-120 on all 6 cylinders. I'll do it again and take pictures
 
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