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mellowyellow

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hey Carp,<br />I only wish that professional sports would immediately<br />ban ALL of these ingrates you describe! if I was<br />making that kinda scrath, I would be Mr. Happy...<br />can't even watch pro. B/ball these days due to<br />animosity I feel towards the arrogance of players.<br /><br />looks like there is only 1 rule where players are<br />banned from the HOF right now though. we shouldn't<br />use this as an excuse to also toss out the 1 and<br />only real rule we got! (he fully knew the rule)<br /><br />hopefully common sense will add rules to cover<br />felons as well real soon.<br />MY .02
 

gaugeguy

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I know what you mean MY. I took my oldest boy (6) to a Celtics game last month. Fairly good seats, 6 rows back under the hoop. I heard more swearing from the players than I heard in a bar full of marines and sailors in the phillipines.<br /><br />Today's athelete really riles me up.
 

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Carp,<br /><br />I would treat him according to the rules. No more, no less. Whatever the rules say regarding using a corked bat should be applied. I think it should (and will) be taken into account when he becomes eligible for the HOF.
 

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I agree 100% Mellow.<br /><br />I guess thats why I love College Basketball soo much. Its nice to see players playing their butts off without having a paycheck on the line.<br /><br />Yeah, I know that almost all of these players are playing to get to the next level, and the millions of dollars that they will get at that level, but at least in college, many are just playing for the love of the game, with no chance at the next level.<br /><br />Remember to watch them Louisville Cardinals. Figured you would like them Cardinals Mellow, since they had one of them east coast boys as a coach................Rick Pitino of course. :p
 

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Ralph, so you personally agree with the rules?<br /> <br />Do you think using a corked bat is cheating?<br /><br />This is where our disagreement lies. The rules are ridiculous if they allow any cheating.<br /><br />I personally don't condone any cheating in any sport. <br /><br />Baseball should change their rules, IMO.<br /><br />Sammy is still playing, thats reason enough for me to watch another sport.<br /><br />I think weve beat this dead horse to death and back again. ;)
 

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nothin better than a good dego to fire them up<br />eh carp! :) LOL ( I'm half dego :p )<br />up here it's syracuse and St. Boniventure. (sp)<br />orange was NCAA champs, unlike the cards :p <br /><br />ps. bet even high school is sold out there huh?<br />MY lucky, we got both pro. football and Hockey<br />in a pretty small town. remember the Braves???<br />had 3 for a while there.<br /><br />listen guys... it's ALL revelent, but the current<br />rules (that count) only have 1 reason for banishment.
 

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Will be in the same conference shortly Mellow..........Your really gonna hate them Cards when they start dominating the Big East. :D <br /><br />Give them Cards a few years, and they will be shooting for title #3.
 

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Could I just point out that Sammy's claim of accidently using a batting-practice bat in the game was substantiated (circumstantially) by x-rays of his 76 remaining bats. <br /><br /> http://espn.go.com/mlb/news/2003/0604/1563115.html <br /><br />Also, bat-tampering carries with it a penalty, just like holding in football or travelling in basketball.
 

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Jtexas, holding in football is hardly cheating, just like a foul in Basketball is not cheating. <br /><br />If Sammy had 70 or so bats that were not corked, then why did he even have that one that IS corked? And what are the odds that out of 70 or so bats, that he would grab the one corked one to use in a game :confused: <br /><br />Sammy Sosa is a cheater, plain and simple. What Pete did is no worse.
 

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And what are the odds that out of 70 or so bats, that he would grab the one corked one to use in a game <br />
Umm 70/1 ;) I agree Carp
 

Carphunter

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You got me Tylerin. :D <br /><br />After I pulled out the calculator, I figured it would be 70-1 odds also. :p
 

lund17

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Pete has gone from a sympathetic character to simply pathetic in the way he is handling himself. He was one of my boyhood sports heroes and now I Can't stand the sound of his name. No Hall.
 

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Pete Rose is a SCUMBAG !!! :D :D <br />He defamed the integruity of the sport.<br />He sold his soul.<br />Just think those of you that believed in him may have bought parifinila that was bought in a regular sport shop. Your bat and baseball may not be worth a hoot and you still defend the idiot.<br />I'm sure this post will make some of you very irratible :p :p <br />You hit the nail on the head Ralph ;) People don't like the "TRUTH" :D <br />gaugeguy: When you comit a crime records don't mean much. Let's reward a drug dealer.<br />If I ever go up against a jury I want you on it . Forgive and forget <br /> <br />At least there is some color to the post ! !
 

gaugeguy

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You don't want me on the jury flyrod, if you did the crime you will be doin the time. He didn't commit a crime, he broke the rules of baseball. Big difference between betting on a game and peddaling crack. Like I said before, I don't know if he belongs there or not.
 

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i'm not a baseball fan at all, but i know whats going on. in my opinion he should not be inducted into the hall of fame, period!!! he's a liar and a cheat!
 

Fly Rod

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Hey gaugeguy :) <br />I think that I owe you an apology. I only read the stats that you posted. I should have read the other 1/2 dozen post of yours. I don't think that I would want you on the jury. <br />Your like me,"GUILTY".<br />Also he will never get into the hall of fame until the 22 year olds of today become the old timers,because they have the final say. Somebody like Daryle Strawberry probably will vote him in.untill that time he is out.<br />No matter how well someone performs, when they go against the rules they should be terminated.
 

gaugeguy

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no prob flyrod, kinda figured that is what you did. :) On another note about this, Pete is signing his book today, guess where...in a casino! :confused: You just can't make this stuff up :rolleyes:
 

Ralph 123

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In today's WSJ, John Dowed, the attorney that did the official investigation of Rose for gambling on baseball said he had evidence Rose bet against his team, the Reds, while the Manager The evidence was corroborated by 2 sources. Since he had a 3 source standard for all items in the report, he left it out of the offcial final report.
 

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Hey, since betting is the worst possible thing in the world that you can do, I say they should just execute Pete.<br /><br />Americans need to get their priorities straight, if you think Pete betting, or Janet's b-o-o-b, is the most important things we should be worrying about, then I feel sorry for ya.
 

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That wasnt even a boop! should have left that goose boob smothered.. :D .... nice sun-dail though.. :cool: <br /><br />..on pete, I met him as a child in Paris, KY. He was puting some money in the town bank and they bused the whole school over everyone got an autograph and photo with him....I also saw him at 3 rivers stadium. Im not a big follower of baseball...but thanks to this debate I have even more respect for him than I did before(mainly as a baseball player). He may gain even more fame/noteriaty(sp) if he isnt inducted.. :)
 
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