stuck steering 40hp johnson

[exodus8]

40hp johnson. the steering is stuck, i removed the steering cable an its not stuck there, its stuck to the opposite side of where the steering cable conects to the motor (left side of engine if ur looking at it standing behind the boat) i was told that the shaft on that left side should move in an out, but its almost all the way in an it wont budge, the boat was siting in the rain an sun for 3 yrs so im guessing that that had a lot to do with it if anyone knows of the right way or an easy way of geting that un stuck please let me know ive tried hammering it turning it an pullling, an it wont budge,,,

 

[SCO]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

there was a recent post on this. That is indeed a rod that is stuck in that tilt tube, and real hard to get out. Do you make any progress when tapping it? If you hammer too hard you can bell the end of the rod. Looking from behind the boat, the rod must be tapped completely out of the tube from r to l. You could also leave the rod in there and get an alternative steering meathod, see referenced thread for that.<br /> http://www.iboats.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=17;t=025291

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

tap it from right to left? does the shaft at the tip of the steering cable come all the way out? cant u hammer it from left to right? also, the larger nuts that are close to the motor where the steering cable is do those need to come out too? i undid the right one an i undid the cable, but its not all the way out, i ran out of room an i figured it might not come all the way out anyways,

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

ok let me clarify something cause im comfused now, the stering cable attaches to my motor on the starboard side,,,i undid the cable on the starboard side,,it can be buled in a n out wen u manually move the engine. on the port side theres that arm that goes from the end of the rod to the motor, which is what moves it. i undid that arm from the port side an then took ouot the large nut on the port side,,, should it come out,,,do i need to hit it on the port or starboard side? also the rod is almost all the way in on the port side, theres about an inch of rod coming out. <br /><br />please bare with me as i know very little to nothing about boats. <br /><br />also, if i remove the large nut on the starboard side identical to the one on the port side, and somehow pull everything out will the motor fall off the boat? thats the last thing i want, if i take the boat to a boat shop how much will it run for them to fix something like this,,,this boat is old an not really worth investing too much money on it, i jsut want it to get some practice on boating so wen i do buy a new one i dont wreck it with inexperience,<br /><br />in conclusion,,, i need to know how to get that darn thing unstuck, do i need to remove that large nut on the starboard side an does that steering cable come all the way out? should i disconnect it from the steering side? can i disconect it from the steering side?and do i hammer it from the port or starboard side?

 

[rickdb1boat]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

Starting over,<br /><br />Remove the nut that holds the Cable in the Tilt Tube(It is connected to the steering cable). Remove the steering link(Arm) that attaches to the Motor and the Cable. Cable should slide out of tilt tube. If not, spray some rust buster(CRC, Ect.) in and around area where the steering Cable goes into and comes out of the Tilt Tube. Let it sit overnight and soak. Try to remove it again the next day. If stuck, try using a large punch or equivilent to drive it through from the port(Left) side, Be careful to not damage the end too much, as it will tend to mushroom when you hit it. If that doesn't work, get a torch with Mapp Gas and heat the Tilt Tube up good. Then let it cool down all the way and try to smack it out of the tube again. It can be tough if you don't have enough room. You may be able to slide your Motor to the left side to allow for clearence. Then again, you may have to remove the motor from the boat for enough room.

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

theres anopther nut close to the motor, not the nut that holds the steering cable, the one after that,,,do i need to remove that?

 

[SCO]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

you're right l to r. Also the cable is attached to the rod. The rod runs through the tilt tube. The motor will not fall off if you take the steering rod/cable out of the tilt tube.

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

also, how do i take the whoel steering cable out? i tried pulling it out but it seems like ive ran out of room. can i disconnect the sterring cable at the helm? would that be a big deal if i disconnect it from there, granted, i know nothing about boats. since i havent removed the steering cable off all the way its hard for me to picture exactly what it is i need to hammer,

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

ok SCO , so it is from the port that i need to bang it? theres only about an inch of that rod coming out, also should i tie a rope or heavy wire to the end to help m epull it through after i get it cleaned or should it slip in nicely after its clean?

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

thanks for ur help SCO, in ref to the cable being attached to that rod, does that mean that if the cable is kinda stuck because its hiting the side of the boat that rod wont budge? can i remove the sterring cable at the helm, or would that be a headache, would it need adjusting if i remove it?

 

[SCO]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

I dont think you can get any purchase to pull, and you cant beat the tapping impulse from the port side.

 

[SCO]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

I never removed mine from the helm, but took time and did not ruin the rod. Once out, I cleaned it up, and cleaned up the tube like cleaning a gun bore.

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

ok , on the port side of the boat,where the lingase that goes from the motor to the rod is,,,that rod and the steering cable are all one piece?

 

[SCO]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

yes, inline, straight through the tilt tube. Can you verify that the tilt tube is the pivot of the motor?

 

[SCO]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

have you unscrewed the nut that holds the cable casing to the motor on the stbd side?

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

wen i removed the steering cable from the motor, u can slide the cable, but it only goes out a ways untill the cable starts to bend (kinda hard to explain) but it seem sliek the only way to remove it is to disconect it from the helm to straighten it out an then it could continue to slide out

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

i belive it is the pivot point of the engine,

 

[SCO]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

Im trying to get to exactly this point. with cable casing nut detatched, can you turn the wheel? In this case the center cable will not move but the casing will move with respect to the cable.

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

the nut of the cable houseing? u mean the nut that kinda looks like the nut on a garden hose that goes onto the water fauset?

 

[SCO]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

Yes it is like a faucet hose and holde the steering cable casing to the motor tilt tube.