stuck steering 40hp johnson

[SCO]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

Maybe you dont even have to do anything depending on your boat. You only need to take action if you see the cable binding. The steering rod end that you now see on the port side must go all the way through and out the stbd side. I didn't remove my motor, but enlarged the cable hole on the port side splash well so there was a straight shot to the tilt tube and big enough for the faucet like nut which had to go through there in my case.

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

ok its punch out time,,,,,thanks alot for all ur help sco, id like to return the favor some day but i doubt ull ever need my help, if u have any other suggestions for me jsut post it n ill read em tomorrow, take care

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

the cable bindin? uve lost me, all i know is that that rod end on the port side wont come in or out, an i got it to turn after sprayin it an using some elbow grease.i just want to get it with a sledge hammer an wack it till it needs to com eout

 

[SCO]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

See you later. Welcome. I get more help than I give around here. I found on mine that the axle that comes with the keel rollers for trailers worked great as a punch for when the steering rod went into the tube, and I also used wooden dowell which eventually broke.

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

the thing is i do need to do something becuase the boat wont steer when the cable hosing is attached ....

 

[SCO]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

Youre throwing me again! you mean you are tiller steering or steering by hand?

 

[SCO]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

If you have to lift the motor, place it under a stout tree, lower the hitch of the trailer, chain the motor lift eye to a stout tree limb, unbolt the motor from the transom, jack up the hitch as reqd to lift the motor from the transom( actually you are lowering the transom from the motor)

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

ok, after studying the steering a little more i noticed a couple of things, 1. if im not mistaken , the steering rod is alot llike a tv antenna, its like two rods in one where one goes inside the other, when pulled from the starboard, there comes a point when its all the way retracted an it becomes snug. 2. i dont know if the cable houseing is attached to the cable or not, but it is in my boat, when the cable houseing clamp is off, the cable moves with the housing in an out, if its suppose to move independent from the cable, then it must be stuck in my case, SCO that last comment u made yesterday about the steering, the only way the motor turns is to disconnect the lilnkage arm from the motor to the steering rod, when its attached the motor does not turn. <br /><br />lastly, i got home yesterday an taped it light ly like u said, after 30 -45 minutes i got tired an i got a 2x4 and a sledge hammer an slamed it with all i had, the rod head on the port side got imbedded into the 2x4 before it woould come loose,,,that rod WILL NOT BUDGE! i have no access to a torch. but if that sledge hammer didnt work i dont knwo if heat will, ill try again today, but i dunno, i was thinking about just buying a new steering cable since they only run about 150 to 200 for my motor, but either way ill still have to remove the old one, if i cut the rod on the starbord side an bang it do u think it might come out better? i was banging that rod so hard i thought i was going to rip the motor off the boat, but it did not budge at all. i was even thinking about hooking up my jeeps winch to the hole on the rod an seeing if i could pull it out, but i thought id bend the rod for sure. i finnaly decided tyo just soak it up some more with liguid wrench an try again today. ........any other sugestions?

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

what would be the benefits of removing the motor from the boat? it seems like it be easier to work with the rod though, even though i picture myself runing around the hangning motor with a sledge hammer like a kid after a pin~ada. im now thingin about just taking the boat to a boat shop an leting them deal with it, does anyone know how much something like that would run?

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

is there an easier way to remove the steering rod if i just cut it? u guys tell me about the mushrooming affect that a direct blow from a sledge hammer would do to it, would that just damage the rod, or will it then be imposible to remove it after it gets unstuck? if i even get it a little loose by sledge hammering it, even if i mushroom the port side end, ill just cut it an pull it out , the main thing is geting it unstuck so if anyone had a sure way of geting the rod unstuck, even if it means damaging the rod, jsut let me know im desperate, i just want to get it fixed an go fishing

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW THAT ROD COULD BE STUCK, IT TURNS WITH A PAIR OF PLIERS , BUT WHEN U HIT IT WITH THE SLEDGE HAMMER IT DOSENT MOVE, COULD IT BE THAT THE ROD IS BENT? IF IT WAS FROZEN IT SHOULDNT EVEN TURN, BUT I GET IT TO TURN

 

[SCO]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

can you post a photo? There's only so much you can do with the typed word so keep cool and take your time, sledge hammers are generally not good. when you rotate it does the cable rotate on the port side? and did you take off the faucet like nut? You could have a big corrosion ring which prevents it from moving to stbd. can you move it any to port? Dont disconnect motor from transom for now, unless you want to saw off the cable, and remove the tilt tube from the motor with stuck rod and replace the tilt tube also.

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

i dont belive the rod rotates on the starboard side wen i rotate it on the port side

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

i did undo the faucet like nut on the starboard an the lingage on the port. the rod on the port turns but dosnt go in an out.

 

[SCO]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

thats a clue. how far can you rotate the rod on the port side. 360 degrees?

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

ill tell u what, i cant get a photo but ill draw a picture an post it

 

[SCO]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

you cant post a pic, but can post a link to a pic.

 

[SCO]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

you talk about a rod on port, is it rod or cable? did you make some progress , enough that you see the rod on the port side?

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

hey SCO i drew a pic but i dont really know how to post it up using a url, if u want i can email it to u

 

[exodus8]

Re: stuck steering 40hp johnson

i can turn it 360 degress, but it seems like the rod is under pressure, like if ur coiling up a wire, the more u turn it the harder it gets to turn it an it wants to turn the other way, like coiling up a springy wire