Terrible new threat to our young folk.

JB

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Got this in an Email from my daughter. PLEASE read it. It may save your child's life.
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All,
This is a story of a boy who died from inhaling from a can of Dust Off-the aerosol used to clean computer parts. I confirmed it as absolutely true in all parts of the story on Snopes: http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/dustoff.asp, who also lists the dangers of many other inhalants that are around the house. Very interesting, and scary. Please pass on to increase awareness. Thanks SHaron.
Alice


First, I'm going to tell you a little about me and my family. My name is Jeff. I am a Police Officer for a city which is known nationwide for its crime rate. We have a lot of gangs and drugs. At one point we were # 2 in the nation in homicides per capita. I also have a police K-9 named Thor. He was certified in drugs and general duty.. He retired at 3 years old because he was shot in the line of duty.. He lives with us now and I still train with him because he likes it. I always liked the fact that there was no way to bring drugs into my house. Thor wouldn't allow it. He would tell on you.. The reason I say this is so you understand that I know about drugs.





I have taught in schools about drugs. My wife asks all our kids at least once a week if they used any drugs..




I like building computers occasionally and started building a new one in February 2005.. I also was working on some of my older computers They were full of dust so on one of my trips to the computer store I bought a 3 pack of DUST OFF . Dust Off is a can of compressed air to blow dust off a computer. A few weeks later when I went to use one of them they were all used. I talked to my kids and my two sons both said they had used them on their computer and messing around with them. I yelled at them for wasting the 10 dollars I paid for them..

On February 28 I went back to the computer store. They didn't have the 3 pack which I had bought on sale so I bought a single jumbo can of Dust Off. I went home and set it down beside my computer.




On March 1st, I left for work at 10 PM.. Just before midnight my wife went down and kissed Kyle good-night... At 5:30 am the next morning Kathy went downstairs to wake Kyle up for school, before she left for work. He was propped up in bed with his legs crossed and his head leaning over. She called to him a few times to get up. He didn't move.. He would sometimes tease her like this and pretend he fell back asleep. He was never easy to get up. She went in and shook his arm. He fell over.. He was pale white and had the straw from the Dust Off can coming out of his mouth. He had the new can of Dust Off in his hands. Kyle was dead.



I am a police officer and I had never heard of this. My wife is a nurse and she had never heard of this. We later found out from the coroner, after the autopsy, that only the propellant from the can of Dust off was in his system.... No other drugs.. Kyle had died between midnight and 1 AM.

I found out that using Dust Off is being done mostly by kids ages 9 through 15.. They even have a name for it.. It's called dusting. A take off from the Dust Off name.. It gives them a slight high for about 10 seconds. It makes them dizzy. A boy who lives down the street from us showed Kyle how to do this about a month before. Kyle showed his best friend... Told him it was cool and it couldn't hurt you. It's just compressed air. It can't hurt you His best friend said so.

Kyle was wrong. It's not just compressed air .. It also contains a propellant called R2.. It's a refrigerant like what is used in your refrigerator... It is a heavy gas... Heavier than air.. When you inhale it, it fills your lungs and keeps the good air, with oxygen, out. That's why you feel dizzy, buzzed. It decreases the oxygen to your brain, to your heart. IT KILLS YOU.



The horrible part about this is there is no warning. There is no level that kills you. It's not cumulative or an overdose; it can just go randomly, terribly wrong. IT'S NOT AN OVERDOSE . You don't die later. Or not feel good and say I've had too much... You usually die as you're breathing it in. If not you die within 2 seconds of finishing 'the hit .' That 's why the straw was still in Kyle's mouth when he died. Why his eyes were still open. The experts want to call this huffing. The kids don't believe its huffing And that's why it's more accepted. There is no chemical reaction, no strong odor... It doesn't follow the huffing signals. Kyle complained a few days before he died of his tongue hurting. It probably did. The propellant causes frostbite. If I had only known.




It's easy to say hey, it's my life and I'll do what I want .. But it isn't... Others are always affected. This has forever changed our family's life. I have a hole in my heart and soul that can never be fixed. The pain is so immense I can't describe it.. There's nowhere to run from it. I cry all the time and I don't ever cry. I do what I'm supposed to do but I don't really care. My kids are messed up. One won't talk about it. The other will only sleep in our room at night. And my wife, I can't even describe how bad she is taking this. I thought we were safe because of Thor.. I thought we were safe because we knew about drugs and talked to our kids about them.

After Kyle died another story came out. A probation Officer went to the school system next to ours to speak with a student.. While there he found a student using Dust Off in the bathroom. This student told him about another student who also had some in his locker. This is a rather affluent school system.. They will tell you they don't have a drug problem there.. They don't even have a DARE or PLUS program there.. So rather than tell everyone about this 'new' way of getting high they found, they hid it. The probation officer told the media after Kyle's death and they, the school, then admitted to it. I know that if they would have told the media and I had heard, it wouldn't have been in my house.

We need to get this out of our homes and school computer labs.. Using Dust Off isn't new and some 'professionals' do know about it. It just isn't talked about much, except by the kids.. They all seem to know about it. April 2nd was 1 month since Kyle died.. April 5thwould have been his 15th birthday. And every weekday I catch myself sitting on the living room couch at 2:30 in the afternoon and waiting to see him get off the bus

This Officer is asking for everyone who receives this email to forward it to everyone in their address book, even Law Enforcement Officers!

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bsktball55

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Re: Terrible new threat to our young folk.

I am a teacher and and during the summer, I work at a fireworks warehouse that actually backs up to the high school I teach at. We have semi trailers all over our parking lot some stay open because there's nothing in them. Well there was one trailer that had about 15-20 empty dust off cans in it. We never caught the kid, but my boss said it must have been one of the kids from the high school that skipped class and went up there. We ended up finding him one day, we had some kids break into one of our trailers and we were walking through the woods finding all the fireworks they had stashed he was laying by a rock with about 10 cans around him. I think he was passed out, but we must have woken up because he came to pretty quick and took off running from us. We never did see him again, but fully expected to find him dead down there one time.
 

rbh

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Re: Terrible new threat to our young folk.

And kids are just getting stupider, WHY.:confused:
 

Bart Sr.

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Re: Terrible new threat to our young folk.

Definitely a tragedy.

This was posted here a few years back.I searched for the post but I think Steve has it.
 

scipper77

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Re: Terrible new threat to our young folk.

And kids are just getting stupider, WHY.:confused:

I think as we get older we just go into denial about how stupid we once were. (not me personally of course).
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: Terrible new threat to our young folk.

dust off, gold spray paint, tolulene, gasoline,
 

puddle jumper

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Re: Terrible new threat to our young folk.

Were I use to live some kids died from a similar incidents. They were inhaling
Pam"cooking spray" and Lysol. Same thing a 15 second buzz. It is sad to think that some people just don't think about what they are doing to them selves.
 

roscoe

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Re: Terrible new threat to our young folk.

Yep, nothing new.
Been happening for 6-12 ?? years, depending on who you believe.

That's why kids haven't been able to buy Dust-off or other compressed air cans for several years.

I'm more concerned about a fireworks warehouse backed up against the high school. :eek:
 

jay_merrill

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Re: Terrible new threat to our young folk.

Huffing has been around for a long time - much longer that "Dust Off" has existed, in fact. Its a very scary thing to contemplate as an adult, because of the physical damage that it can do to kids.

I am a very liberal person and have views on certain things that are probably very different than most of the "regs" here. I'll leave the description of myself at that, out of respect for the "no politics" rule at iboats, but think that it better empahsizes what I am about to say.

That something, is that I don't want to see kids getting high on anything. There is a lot of difference between being a "leftover hippie from the sixties," who no longer partakes of certain things, but tolerates a few friends who do, and being irresponsible towards children.

The dangers of huffing are obvious to us as adults. Counseling your children to stay away from it is a "slam dunk." What kids don't realize, however, is just what they are doing, when they do things like smoke weed. Its not just "pot" any more, like it was "back in the day." Much of it ... not all, but still quite a bit if not most ... is laced with all sorts of stuff. There are even more mundane issues, such as the presence of pesticides that would not be allowed in regular agriculture. Suddenly the "its just a plant" argument that I would have (and did) use in the sixties, is no longer valid.

Further, there is a less obvious, but very important issue, that usually isn't talked about. That would be the loss in productivity and learning experiences that are critical during those very important teenage years. Simply put, sitting around going "oh wow" with your friends, doesn't do much for your life later on and that's exactly why I quit all that nonsense. Its also pretty hard to tell your kid not to do something, when you still do it - not exactly a "lead by example moment."

What I have written here isn't rocket science and I suspect that the good parents who frequent these forums, don't need parentlng lessons from a guy who's "claim to fame" is that he owns a '72 Johnson 65hp, damn fine outboard motor, but these words might serve as a discussion point with kids. I guess my thinking is that, even folks from the "been there, done that crowd," would council kids not to make the mistakes that we did. I was never dumb enough to huff anything, but I did a lot of other dumb stuff and I hope today's generation will be smarter than I was.



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tswiczko

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I was an HVAC/R service tech for over 15 years and every now and the would get several service calls in a single block a time or two in a year. all the systems had the same symptoms of being low on refrigerant, I had leak searched each system I was out on and found no leak. After the third system I became suspect as to what was going on I went bac to the previous homes and warned the homeowners to watch for kids in their yard and what I thought was going on. One of them asked me if there would be any physical signs to look for,when I asked why The woman told me she had taken her son to the e.r. with burns to his hand (frost bite he gave some b.s excuse he had found some dry ice and was playing with it) he was huffing refrigerant by depressing the shrader valve and inhaling, this time he depressed the valve on the discharge line of the condenser while it was running and got a lot of liquid refrigerant at high pressure luckily he didnt get a lung full of that. Would have killed him. needless to say the neighbors all wanted him to pay for the service calls. It was an expensive lesson, but it didn't kill him thankfully.
 

roscoe

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Re: Terrible new threat to our young folk.

Its not true "huffing", no chemical high like with toluene.

What is different with the compressed air cans, is that it is simply oxygen deprivation that the kids are getting "high" on.
And that the propellant is a heavy gas that settles in the lungs and is not easily expelled. Get too much, and you suffocate.
 

erikpn

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Re: Terrible new threat to our young folk.

dust off, gold spray paint, tolulene, gasoline,

exactly. It's not new, people have been doing it with spray cans, glue, etc for decades. It's also not dust off specifically. There's literally thousands of common household items that will do the same thing, and you can't avoid/ban them all.
 

joed

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Re: Terrible new threat to our young folk.

This is direct from the MSDS sheet. They seem to be at least aware of the 'intentional misuse'.


Inhalation of high concentrations of vapor is harmful and may cause heart irregularities, unconsciousness, or death. Intentional misuse or deliberate inhalation may cause death without warning. Vapor reduces oxygen available for breathing and is heavier than air. Liquid contact can cause frostbite.
 

bsktball55

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Re: Terrible new threat to our young folk.

I'm more concerned about a fireworks warehouse backed up against the high school. :eek:

The actual warehouse and the high school are probably 1/4 to 1/2 away from one another. The fireworks property is next to the soccer field not the actual school and it's actually our parking lot where we store all of our trailers. Some have fireworks in them, some don't. It's consumer grade stuff not the professional stuff that makes the big explosions. We actually had one of our trailers catch on fire a couple years ago (Arson) and it just burned, it never did blow up.
 

gonefishie

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Re: Terrible new threat to our young folk.

Wow, it must be a very well kept secret from the parents. I was a teenager in the mid 90's and I knew all about dusting, and huffing. I only knew of a few that were doing it. I thought it was incredibly stupid the moment I saw it. I think most of the parents in my age group are fully awared of this. I believe MTV, back when they still show music videos, did a special on this subject showing how dangerous it is.
 

puddle jumper

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Re: Terrible new threat to our young folk.

Just because I believe that a community raises a child, not just a family. I got my 12 year old to read this thread. I don't know if it will stop him from doing something this stupid to his body but at least he will think about the consequences.
 

bkwapisz

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What is wrong with kids these days. Whatever happened to stealing a few beers from dad's garage fridge or buying a dime bag. I can't fathom that kids think it's cool to inhale crap like that. Things like that never occurred to us back then. I just don't get it.
 

rbh

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What is wrong with kids these days. Whatever happened to stealing a few beers from dad's garage fridge or buying a dime bag. I can't fathom that kids think it's cool to inhale crap like that. Things like that never occurred to us back then. I just don't get it.

Dads beer/liquor = good time till you got caught + sore backside, AH the good old days. :D
 

pmat1

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Re: Terrible new threat to our young folk.

im a teen and would NEVER even consider doing anything that dumb!
 

mscher

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Re: Terrible new threat to our young folk.

And kids are just getting stupider, WHY.:confused:

Kids were plenty stupid 30 years ago.

I know that for a fact. ;)

Not all kids today are "stupid" My kids don't drink, smoke or do drugs. The know tens times as much on the perils of "sex", as I did at their age.

They are still plenty dumb on a lot of other things, so I don't have my work cut out for me.
 
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