Tragedy at sea world

rainman99

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My hart gos out to the family for there lost. Heard this is the third time this whale has killed a person. Just wondering what there going to do with this animal now. Can they release back into the wild or do they have to keep it in captivate or kill it?
 

Expidia

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Re: Tragedy at sea world

I'd start with not letting a 4th person in the tank with the Whale.

The first two fell in. Put up some type of fence after the first one died.

Trainer or not it's still a "Killer" Whale there just for a "show".

Don't get into a tank with Killer Whales or Alligators would be my 2 cents.
 

tashasdaddy

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wild animal in captivity. you never know what to expect. trained to perform for food, did not like yesterdays menu.
 

rbh

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Tilikum, is a 30 year old 12.000 pound male, this is the third incident were some one has been killed in the pool with him.
He was sent to seaworld Florida from sea world pacific near Victoria BC after an incident in 1992.
worst thing about these incident is it seems the orca is only playing not feeding!
 

JustJason

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It was a sad event, but what does one expect when you contain an animal. I can teach a dog to sit for a treat of some sort. But if the dog is not in the mood she isn't going to sit. Now take away the fur and multiply the dogs weight by 10,000, and that's what you get.
 

itsaboattime

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Been doing some looking, Tillikum is 30 years old. He was captured in 1983 when he was about 2 off the coast of Iceland. He is around 12,000 lbs. He was primarily used to splash the audience.

The first person he was involved in the death of was a trainer who was drug into the tank with "Tilly" and two females. They "tossed" her around, like they were playing with her, till she drowned. The second person he killed was a tresspasser in the park who hid in the park until after closing and then jumped in the tank............Darwin Award. Then of course, the horrible incident earlier this week.

I feel like a complete dolt......I have been surfing for info at several sites, and my better half just found it all at Wikipedia.............

I don't know if he was old enough to know how to take care of himself when he was captured. Even if he did, he has been fed for 27 years, would he be able to survive?? I can also envision him approaching boats and vessles looking for human interaction. I think he could be very hazardous in the wild, still looking for human interaction. Maybe he should be kept and used in a purely stud capacity?? Or maybe kept in the same capacity but with absolutly no people in or near the tank??

I dunno.......just some thoughts.
 
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rjlipscomb

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Yeah, let's not blame the Killer Whale. As I understand it, she drowned. He may have thought she was playing with him or better yet, he was playing with her. Really, what can we expect from a 12,000 pound animal. If he was intent on killing, the pool would have been a mess. Just watch the National Geographic or Discovery shows on Killer Whales in the wild. It's a sad tragedy for all involved, including the whale. :(

My prayers go out to the girl and her family.
 

izoomie

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I used to run a diskjockey service many years ago and one of my guys was a trainer at Marine Land in Niagara Falls. He used to ride the wales around the tank. One day one of them grabbed his arm and pulled him down to the bottom of the tank, he almost drowned. He never went back in after that.
 

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Mess with the bull, you get the horns!! A wild animal will always be a wild animal.
 

rainman99

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Quote: I can also envision him approaching boats and vessles looking for human interaction. I think he could be very hazardous in the wild, still looking for human interaction. Maybe he should be kept and used in a purely stud capacity?? Or maybe kept in the same capacity but with absolutly no people in or near the tank??


Imagine a killer whale comeing up to your boat. :confused:Two thoughts wide open throttle and how fast can a whale swim.
 

surge006

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Whales can be released back into the wild, they did it with the one from free willy and it lived fine till it died of natural cause. people keep forgeting the name KILLER whale lol what do you exspect. the deaths arnt funny but dont blame the whale for your not understandin.
 

Tacklewasher

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I doubt this particular animal could survive in the wild. He's been in captivity for most of his life.

While I think it is a nice sentiment, might be more humane to euthanize.

And not replace the animal.
 

JRJ

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My condolences to the family. My guess is more people are killed by saddle horses each year than Killer Whales.
 
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Sorry to hear about this...I saw a wildlife show last week where those whales were eating seals like a 10 year old kid popin down milk duds at the movie house........I saw tonight there were going to put the fish down..
 

rodbolt

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Re: Tragedy at sea world

while my heart goes out to the trainers family even she would have told you they are not Killers.
they are apex predetors with a playful side and incredibly intelligent.
but like most higher order mammals,not all humans included, they must have constant stimulation.
thats also why playstations addict so many.
so far there is no documentation of an Orca ever killing a human in the wild.
great white sharks, whales,dolphins,seals,sealions and a few other things but never a human.
early explorors named them whale killers which the media corrupted into killer whales to aide in the sale of the story.
as they are very pod oriented and each pod develops their own language that whale simply wont survive in the wild now.
and yes it would try to find human interaction because that now means food.
its why they dont rehabilitate primates and big cats and such when they go rogue.
I just hope Orcas dont discover how fragile and easy to catch Humans are or we may end up on their food chain.
same as that hope goes for great whites aand bull sharks.
so far we are not a part of the food chain.
trainer took her eye off the ball,its that simple, playing with an animal that size you simply cannot or you will get hurt or killed.
same as a lot of dangerous jobs that we do daily.
its also why most states are banning texting or calling while driving.
driving is inherently dangerous and most of us have done it daily for years.take your eye off the ball at 65 MPH and it may kill you.
you may actually get away with it 99 out of 100 times but it only takes once.
 
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