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heycods

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Will Wall-Mart pull out of Maryland after they passed the new law requiring Co.s with over 10000 employees to spend 8% of salary on health care for employees.
 

bootle

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You have left out that every company with that sizable number of employees in the state of Delaware already spends over 8% on their workers healthcare.
 

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ahhhh, should wally world "pull out" that will allow the competitors to claim their market share as per the same businesses stating that ww will kill them.<br /><br />My opine?........good riddance ww 'cause ya choose to take advantage of the state funded medicals. BTW, that state funded means you citizens pay fer for it via yer tax dollars. <br /><br />Also, some of the larger employers here in WI do the same strategy, Aurora Health Care as reported in the local Journal Sentinel Milwaukee news rag.
 

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I didn't know Wally World had employees.. I thought they were co-owners.. might be a loop hole?
 

BoatBuoy

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"Technically, the law applies to any firm employing over 10,000 Marylanders." - The Motley Fool. <br /><br />Are illegal aliens living in Maryland considered Marylanders? If not, is there an out here for Wal-Mart?
 

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They are associates I think is their title.<br />Poor Wally World.<br />This insurance deal is just a big rip off anyway IMO.<br /><br />Just like auto insurance, they know you have to have it to be legal and they get out the gouging sticks to put it to the consumer.
 

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As I understand it. Nowhere is it stated that any employer "MUST" provide Insurance or a benifits package to anyone. Until Maryland says so. AFLCIO says they will get this refrendum on the ballot this year in 30 states. This will open up a whole new can of worms. :confused:
 

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Or the state will put in a clause saying to all full time employees and wally world will make all associates part time.
 

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Originally posted by Darth D Invader:<br /> You have left out that every company with that sizable number of employees in the state of Delaware already spends over 8% on their workers healthcare.
I'm just exrtemely curious -- What "other companies" in Mary land have more than 10000 employees?<br />I wasn't aware of ANY at all.<br />In answer to the topic thread's question, my opinion is that I hope they DO pull-out of the state.<br />The socialist tactics the state is trying to use border upon criminal IMHO. They should pay the price instead of the buisness.
 

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I am so glad that it is just your opinion 12footer. Because it's so full of c**p. Socialist? isn't socialist where the government is so expansive because it takes care of everything for everyone? If I am not misunderstanding you, then if "They ... pay the price instead of the buisness." then isn't that the socialist attitude? <br />If Maryland passed this issue to force Walmart to provide some type of health benefits for it's worker, with Walmart as it's major focus, then YES it's wrong, IMHO. But otherwise, someone has to pay for healthcare, and as it is currently with Walmart, it is you and me through our taxes. And was pointed out in the past WW bashing threads, we also pay for the low wages through welfare, medicaid, various accounts default and other unpaid costs that we all then get to pay through higher prices and higher taxes.<br /><br />So for once, get off your high-horse, see the reality and constructively use what gray matter you have, which evidently is sufficient, just misused.<br /><br />As for the post's question, it will be curious to see if the requirement sticks. Baby bush has aided Walmart in it's quest to crush any union attempts and I suspect he will side with corporate money again, as opposed to protecting the interests and Constitutional rights of the American people.
 

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I hope they stick it to wallfart. They suck. That's from a conservative.
 

heycods

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Originally posted by RubberFrog:<br /> I hope they stick it to wallfart. They suck. That's from a conservative.
That is what I was talking about with the "whole<br />new can of worms" if they stick it to Wall Mart then how long befour a business with 1000 employees. Right on down the line, Until all business must provide health care for thier employees. Joes Bait, tackle and habbadashery that employes 3 people is going out of bussiness,Or they are going up on thier prices. Then you the consumer are still going to foot the bill for employee health care.<br /> I think in the long run if employers have to provide health care. the little business will go under and the wall marts will survive.<br /> I dont like the government of maryland or any government mandating business to provide health care, thats just passing the buck from Hill and Bills plan to the private sector.<br /> Do I think the government should provide 100% health care for its people. NO . We would wind up over taxed to pay the bill for QUALITY health care. Do I have the answer. hell no.
 

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Anyone here consider that WWs business model planned for the rank and file werkers to use fed funded health bennies??<br /><br />Seems to me that a good business model that can use all advantages possable would do that.<br /><br /> Not too much unlike American small business owners rewarding themselves via "favorable" tax deductions themselves. <br /><br />Lets hear the small business owners on this board rationalize their "deductions" in the interest of reducing the IRS tax, and then ***** about welfare, or other social programs that they "pay" for.
 

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PJC, I hope I am not missunderstanding you, if I am, my appologies. I don't think the average small business owner is very different than the average worker. We work long, hard hours and are trying to make a living and a better life for our families. Now for the differences, the business owners have taken a substantial risk, many times risking their family home and any property that they own, betting it all on the idea that their business will succeed. Many times, these business fail, and everything they gambled is lost. For the few that succeed, or those that crawl back up and try it again and succeed, they are entitled to reap the benefits of their sacrifice and the rewards from taking a risk and succeeding. Have you ever worked for weeks, months and even sometimes years without a paycheck ? Most likely not. When you go to work for someone else, are you putting your savings and family home at risk ? Probably not. As a worker, you certainly do not have to deal with the complex red tape and production killing time that the government forces business owners to deal with just to stay open.<br />The other side of the coin : there are people that are capable of working, yet have never worked a day in their life. Their are men and women that are making babies that they don't care about and or will never support. There are illegal aliens flooding this country and sucking up every last bit of aid and welfare they can get their hands on, and are not contributing one bit to paying for any of it.<br />You want to talk about fair ? Some of us work 12 or more hours a day, 6 or 7 days a week, pay for 100% of our own health benefits, pay our employees first, make sure their families are taken care of, make sure that our suppliers are paid, pay our taxes, still donate to charity and our church.........and we take every legal tax deduction we are allowed to take. Yet somewhere in our neighborhood, there is a "family" that is living in housing paid by the government (that means us), the "man" doesn't work, the woman has eight kids by eight different men, has never been married to any of them, won't say who the fathers are and completely lives on government assistance (paid for by us). The "man" gets drunk every day, the woman does nothing but talk on the phone, the kids are running the neighborhood, with no supervision, and will probably follow in the footsteps of their...ummm...."parents".<br /> And I'm supposed to feel guilty about taking every tax break I can ????? Sorry....I'm tired of paying for crap like this, every 10 cents I save on taxes, is ten cents you can pay if you wish to support the mess this country has become. If you want to reward lazy, unresponsible behavior.....go for it.
 

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I have to agree with waterone1, lets not leave out, when we do eventually pay ourselves, we pay both sides of the equation in reference to social security, which is most likely not going to be any kind of safety net by the time we get to retirement.
 
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