Welding gurus....advice for a newbie....

BlkY2k

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I've seen that posted elsewhere, and if the complexity alone wasn't enough, I believe that is aluminum....
Not a job for beginners! ;):D
The guys name is John Marcella and the stuff he does with aluminum is Pure Artwork. I`ve seen some of his other work and its just phenomenal. Every single stitch the same size.
 

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Hello fellas,

I am a welding instructor and taught many basic welding courses at trade schools. I curently teach pipe welding.

To answer your questions, If you have never welded or have never been around it i would look into one of the courses, they are not all that much and you can get alot out of them. Safety/mach set up and the just of it. If you been around it then you could do alot of research on the internet and U Tube ect.

If you are going to buy a unit, start with the basic models, like a 110 volt mig welder for your basic garage work on thin materials. Plug it into the wall and your welding.

Most of these mach can handle up to 1/8" thick material, anything over that you need to bevel the joint and do multi-pass welds.

Then you get into gasless and gas mig welders. The gasless flux core wire works ok but if you use a sheilding gas with hard wire the weld is 100 times better and is much stronger.

Stick (Arc) (Rod) welding is alot differnt it takes alot of practice and skill to acomplish this, plus it is very hard to weld thin material with a Arc welder. I would not start with one being a newbi. This would be a step up kinda thing!

Oxy-fuel welding is ok for some things but it is dated, mostly used for cutting/heating steel.
Nowadays we have all the fanncy cutting tools and such.

Hope i have helped. Good luck to your quest and welding is great way to express yourself.
I have been a welder for 30 years and this is exactly the answer to your questions.Start with cheap mig and have a good time with less mess also.
 

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Then you get into gasless and gas mig welders. The gasless flux core wire works ok but if you use a sheilding gas with hard wire the weld is 100 times better and is much stronger.

very VERY true, but i also find my flux core works waaaaay better in the driveway under my truck onna breezey day
 

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Then you get into gasless and gas mig welders. The gasless flux core wire works ok but if you use a sheilding gas with hard wire the weld is 100 times better and is much stronger.

very VERY true, but i also find my flux core works waaaaay better in the driveway under my truck onna breezey day
Not sure where you get your info but solid wire and flux cored wire welds are identical strength assuming you are getting identical penetration. After all, the flux cored wire weld is similar to a stick weld since they both use flux.

The molten flux sits on top of the molten weld pool thus shielding it. What makes you think that aspect would make a weld weaker?
 
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If you are serious about wanting to learn, The advice you have gotten is great. Take a class at a reputable college and learn the basics. The machines are basically "You get what you pay for". I have a Miller Econo-Twin and a Lincoln Wire Feeder as well as a Oxy-Propane setup. I prefer TIG when possible, Followed by Stick for anything other than ALuminum, and MIG for rapid production. My Advice would be to STAY AWAY from TULSA WELDING ACADEMY. The experience that we have had with them at my company is while they can teach the basics, they do not make you a welder. We have "Graduates" from Tulsa that can burn rod, but cannot set up thier machine, Cannot read their weld to know what they need to do.

My experience with the "Harbor Freight" Type machines is they have a very light duty cycle and if you are trying to fab something fairly big you cannot weld continously.

Hope this helps.
 

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Thanks for the tips and suggestions; lots to digest. :)
 

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Tim, I am in the same boat as you. After much research I just ended up buying a Hobart 110V machine for under $300 on sale. They are MIG upgradeable and have received very high reviews and user feedback compared to the Canadian Tire and Princess auto types AND for a better price. Bought the Miller wire brand as recommended and have just started playing around with it. Think I'll look into a night course to get a basic introduction.
 

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I bought this one a few months ago, of course it is quite a bit cheaper down there.


http://millermatic-211.blogspot.ca/

It welds anything the home fabricator generally tackles, but it will also production weld if required.
 

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to me welding is like riding a bicycle once you learn how to ride & balance you don't fall off , being a Boilermaker for the last 36 years & still at it . i love this job .
 

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A big gap in my technical toolkit is welding ability.
Three pieces of advice sought :

!) How reckless/senseless/impractical etc. would it be to go and buy a welder and just get at it with small projects that have little critical importance....and practice/learn that way?

3) Can you get an arc-welder that is not a paper weight for under $100-? There is one on sale at 1/2 price at our equivalent of Harbour Freight ... $70-. Rating is 70A...input 120/240...Output 80A....Duty cycle 20% at 55A....with 1/16" electrodes, 10% at 70A with 5/64"...heat settings 60A-70A. D

I know everone is giving advice on pricey welders but based on your criteria I would strongly recommend the 120 volt HF welder (see post 13). I have access to proffessional machines but 8 times out of 10, I reach for this little 8 lb inverter welder. I have welded everthing from light gage sheet metal, exhaust system installs, to heavy farm equipment (using multiple passes). It is very easy to use and learn with if you start off with the 1/16 rods.
 

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I know everone is giving advice on pricey welders but based on your criteria I would strongly recommend the 120 volt HF welder (see post 13). I have access to proffessional machines but 8 times out of 10, I reach for this little 8 lb inverter welder. I have welded everthing from light gage sheet metal, exhaust system installs, to heavy farm equipment (using multiple passes). It is very easy to use and learn with if you start off with the 1/16 rods.

It certainly gets good reviews and comes with a real ground clamp, verses a battery jumper-cable clamp.

HF's product quality gets better and better.
 

Tim Frank

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I know everone is giving advice on pricey welders but based on your criteria I would strongly recommend the 120 volt HF welder (see post 13). I have access to proffessional machines but 8 times out of 10, I reach for this little 8 lb inverter welder. I have welded everthing from light gage sheet metal, exhaust system installs, to heavy farm equipment (using multiple passes). It is very easy to use and learn with if you start off with the 1/16 rods.

We don't have HF in the GWN, but have similar type retailers.
There has actually been a really good cross-section of responses....none of it contradictory....just different directions.
I am pretty comfortable that the answer to my question 1) is "only as reckless as you make it".....and to 3) the trend seems to be "there are some good, inexpensive units, just be sure that you match your needs with its capability".

I just have to get past the summer-induced inertia, and get at it. :D
 
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