World Record Assembly

[Sea Rider]

The Aussies have come up with this incredible fast assembly origami like boat just around 40 seconds total time asssembly. Can take an engine up to a 9.9 HP. This one outbeats the Junky Origami Porta Bote by far. The only down issue by far too, is price, just above $ 4 grand.

At last the Quickboat is here! | Quickboats

Happy Boating

 

[Loop_Dad]

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What's the difference between this and Porta Bote? They look very much a like...

 

[Sea Rider]

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Although the concept is alike, this one has a better material construction, assembles much faster and is intended for sea use, can take a 9.9 HP, seems the hull is more rigid, rock less. Had the oportunity to test a brand new portabote about same size with a Tohatsu 5 HP, the ride was the worst have seen, you could feel water rolling underneath hull, a holly crap indeed. More seaworthy than Portacrap.-

Happy Boating

 

[MustardKeen]

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What's the difference between this and Porta Bote? They look very much a like...

Interesting questions here guys.
2 weeks ago I went out on the 12' Quickboat with an 8hp outboard.
I have owned a porta bote for 3 years and did a bit of a comparison on my blog: MustardKeen Fishing Scene

I was really impressed with the Quick Boat. Especially in the way that it assembles.
The Porta Bote is flexible and this has its advantages and disadvantages too.
The Quick boat is more rigid. Very stable and at the moment can travel faster than the Porta Bote. (We did 30kph with 2 of us in the Quick Boat). Maximum recommended speed for my 10' Porta Bote is 24kph (15mph). I have been faster but it's a little scary.
Assembly time is a lot less than the Porta Bote as well.
What I like about both boats is the fact that they fold up and can be carried on the roof of your vehicle whilst pulling a caravan.
Check out my blog if you want and let me know what your thoughts are.

 

[Sea Rider]

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Hi MustardKeen,

Nice to read that your particular boating experience with Quickboat was far outstanding than with Portabote, definitely have solved all of the Portabote's tech flaws. In my case, happily didn't bought the Portabote, was very near to bite the bullet. A friend that had a large one called me to test my Tohatsu 5 HP on his. Was a very funny collaboraboration between parts, he wanted to test a 5 HP and myself a Portabote.

After the water test at near flat sea with just 2, the Portabote performance was so awful, he decided to sell it as soon was back to port, that says everything. The boat felt side unstable, rocked too much, had excessive water rolling under middle hull, mostly due to boat being thin. The portable and quick assemble concept is very nice, but both brands too pricey. Near doubles/triples the price of a nice sib/rib.

It's not that want to be mean with Portacrap, just can't stand owner's web page expressing so badly, even exagerating concepts which aren't true about inflatables to praise his "outstanding" origami toy product...

Happy Boating

 

[MustardKeen]

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Hi Sea Rider,
Thanks for your response and feed back.
Porta Bote have come up with a newer version of the Porta Bote.
They call it the Alpha 1 at the moment.
It has a folding transom that remains attached to the hull.
It still uses wing nuts to keep it in place though.
This has increased the weight of the folded hull slightly (the 10' version is around 13 pound heavier than my 10' Gen IV).
I'll be posting on my blog about the Alpha 1 shortly.
I too found the illustration of a guy in an inflatable sinking on their website a little insulting as do my inflatable owning friends, but that is part of their marketing strategy I guess.
It may have been more applicable if they'ed focused on the time it takes to inflate compared to the time taken to assemble.
Interestingly, the day I went for a run in the Quick Boat, there was a guy inflating his inflatable with a foot pump at the boat ramp.
The quick Boat went together super swift by comparison.
I see both with their advantages and disadvantages.
It doesn't take much to get an inflatable moving when it's on the water. I think that is a bonus.

"The worst day fishing is better than the best day at work."

 

[Sea Rider]

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MustardKeen,

Plainly in agreement with you, both have their advantages and disadvantages, the one that suits you best will dependd entirely on the type of boating you intend yo do such as fishing, cruising, spear or scuba diving, etc. Have you owned or use a sib/rib to compare their overall water performance with respect to a Portabote or a Quickboat ? Bashing competitor with false visual statements in any form is forbiden down here, you could be severely fined for that...

Although I don't fish, would say : "The worst day boating is better than the best day at work"

Happy Boating

 

[MustardKeen]

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Hi Sea Rider,
I haven't owned a sib/rib myself, but I do have friends that do and have discussed that particular picture that you mentioned with them..
I hope I didn't give you the impression that I was Bashing a competitor as that was not my intention.
My remarks were merely an observation.
If you get the opportunity, check out this Youtube video. If It's Not A CRIB It's Just A Rib - YouTube
I think you will find it interesting.
If you look at it, please let me know your thoughts.

Cheers

 

[Guest]

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Hi Sea Rider,
I haven't owned a sib/rib myself, but I do have friends that do and have discussed that particular picture that you mentioned with them..
I hope I didn't give you the impression that I was Bashing a competitor as that was not my intention.
My remarks were merely an observation.
If you get the opportunity, check out this Youtube video. If It's Not A CRIB It's Just A Rib - YouTube
I think you will find it interesting.
If you look at it, please let me know your thoughts.

Cheers

whats the benefits of this crib over my zodiac 11ft with wood floor and ability to hold a 20 hp ob and fits inside my SUVSUV

 

[Guest]

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Quick boats looks good but in my location transom wheels are a must and how big of an ob can this take? Honestly even though an inflatable can pierce easy there's a reason the coast guards use inflatables over these foldable boats. Just by watching these videos they look flimsy

 

[Sea Rider]

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MustardKeen,

Sorry for the misunderstanding about bashing, was reffering to Portabote's web page bashing picture, the only possible way to achieve a completely defleted sib would be walking on tubes with track shoes, shot with a 12 cal shot gun or a 50 cal machine gun...

Checked the link, how come Portabote are now contradicting themselves using inflatable tubes inside/outside crib, don't they're a real danger for boaters. Personally don't think manufacturer can call "that" a rib, sorry, ribs are hard non flexible hulls and that one definitely flexes as previous model with water rolling under hull at speed. For my particular sea boating needs, would preffer a sib with inflatable air deck than investing a huge out of this world sum on the new Portacrib model.

I don't like to fat manufacturer owners with my bucks on products that are not worth the huge tech penalties. Buying a fast deploying air deck sib along a 12 volt electric pump is much less money well spent....

Happy Boating

 

[MustardKeen]

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whats the benefits of this crib over my zodiac 11ft with wood floor and ability to hold a 20 hp ob and fits inside my SUVSUV

Absolutely no idea! I just thought you might find it interesting. Personally I can't see the advantage of having a crib.

I'm not promoting the crib

Porta Bote might be able to name an advantage.

I'll ask on the forum if anyone owns one and let you know.

Cheers

 

[MustardKeen]

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whats the benefits of this crib over my zodiac 11ft with wood floor and ability to hold a 20 hp ob and fits inside my SUVSUV

Hi Weimed,
I found this information on the Porta Bote forum.
I don't know how accurate it is:
"Other Model – Porta-Bote CRIB (Collapsible Rigid Inflatable Boat) - Porta-Bote CRIB
was created to extend the Porta-Bote capacities into the range of 16’ models. It weighs
50% less than a comparable length Rigid Inflatable Boat making transportation and
handling much easier. The CRIB has the incredibly strong, near indestructible Porta-
Bote hull. Finally the CRIB has much more interior volume for the same length than a
RIB so you can carry more gear. Porta-Bote CRIB comes in 10', 12', 14' and 16'
models.
The inflatable part is manufactured for by SOTAR Corporation, known worldwide for
their nearly indestructible whitewater inflatable rafts. Made exclusively from Lexatron, an
almost impenetrable material that is also approved and used by the Military. Not glued
together like ordinary Hypalon or PVC tubes, but actually “ultrasonically and heat
welded" for many years of carefree enjoyment. And Lexatron is also much more UV
resistant then Hypalon or PVC so the CRIB will last many years longer in constant
outdoor use."

 

[Sea Rider]

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Nobody denies the oustanding tech characteristics the origami boat has to offer, foldable, light weight, fast assembly, but poor performer. If using a Portabote or Porta Crib for goofing around, fishing, exploring with attached small engine on inland calm waters is fun for you then go for it.

That model still has the deck/hull flaw the previous standard one has, that is, being a hard plastic one piece deck/hull still rocks, can feel water rolling under when used on choppy seas or when giving throttle compared to a rib. Sorry, each one has its own boating segments and can't be compared between them. Portabote owner bashed sibs now bashing ribs, mentally insane, needs to go boating at Bellevue Psychiatry Center...

Happy Boating

 

[MustardKeen]

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Nobody denies the oustanding tech characteristics the origami boat has to offer, foldable, light weight, fast assembly, but poor performer. If using a Portabote or Porta Crib for goofing around, fishing, exploring with attached small engine on inland calm waters is fun for you then go for it.

That model still has the deck/hull flaw the previous standard one has, that is, being a hard plastic one piece deck/hull still rocks, can feel water rolling under when used on choppy seas or when giving throttle compared to a rib. Sorry, each one has its own boating segments and can't be compared between them. Portabote owner bashed sibs now bashing ribs, mentally insane, needs to go boating at Bellevue Psychiatry Center...

Happy Boating

I just found out that they haven't sold any of these CRIBS to the public. (I asked the question in the Porta Bote forum and Porta Bote replied.)
Apparently they sold them to the military.
They couldn't comment any further on that.
Cheers

 

[ronaldj]

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I was in the Annapolis Md harbor on saturday and almost everybody there had some type of Sib. There is actually a dedicated spot for Sibs to tie up. Since this is sailboat country they refer to all sibs as Yacht Tenders. There were 2 porta boats there. It is a boat for someone who has very little storage space. Having seen one up close and witnessed first hand how they handle. There is no way you could give me one. There is no way you could fish from it

 

[Sea Rider]

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Ronaldj,

Plainly in agreement, no way I could have one bought or given for free. Probably will wangle one it were the last watercraft resource available worldwide. The flimsy thin deck/hull even seated on upper seats rocks exagerately sideways compared to a sib or rib of same size. How possibly could somebody standing up fish from it ? That's a perfect origami boat to buy and go boating singing along...Rock the Boat....

Are the military on a very low budget as to buy Porta Cribs rather than Zodiab MilPro sibs ? That's what Portabote owner says to give the Internet audience undeserved importance to it's expensive flimsy new product...

Happy Boating

 

[MustardKeen]

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I was in the Annapolis Md harbor on saturday and almost everybody there had some type of Sib. There is actually a dedicated spot for Sibs to tie up. Since this is sailboat country they refer to all sibs as Yacht Tenders. There were 2 porta boats there. It is a boat for someone who has very little storage space. Having seen one up close and witnessed first hand how they handle. There is no way you could give me one. There is no way you could fish from it

Actually you are correct in saying it is used by people that have little storage space.
I have plenty of storage space though but I find it useful when towing a caravan as I can put it on the roof racks or bolt it to the side of my van.
I fish mostly estuaries and rivers and find it easy to fish from.
You wouldn't take one out to sea though. Well not my 10' bote anyway.
I'm enjoying the input from you guys.